Re: A contribution to ongoing terminology work

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Mon, 05 April 2021 15:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: A contribution to ongoing terminology work
From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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On 2021-04-05, at 15:53, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
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> No, I'm troubled by how the IESG arbitrarily used the Guidelines for Conduct as an excuse to suppress criticism and dissenting voices in order to promote its political agenda while at the same time violating those Guidelines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer

More gravely speaking, the founding principle of the country I’m living in is that one needs to be vigilant against attempts to destroy its freedom.  I fully subscribe to this principle, even if it means that Nazis don’t get freedom of speech here.

(OK, the amount of transfer effort needed to translate these principles to what’s going on in the IETF right may be high — IETF is no country, but the point is that not every dissent is noble and deserves protection.  That is not an easy line to ride, but relitigating ad nauseam every decision the IESG makes to protect the IETF is not productive.  The submitter has even made known that he now considers his contribution rushed, and has apologized!  My mother would have said: Schwamm drüber.)

Grüße, Carsten