Re: ITU-T Dubai Meeting
Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us> Thu, 02 August 2012 22:00 UTC
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On 8/2/2012 2:53 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: > On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> >> The whole concept of a global network, with no centralized control, that >> permits (nay, encourages) the free flow of information is anathema to >> many national governments. They are desperate to choke that off, by any >> means necessary. > > > From http://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2012/07/nsa-head-calls-more-visibility-over-computer-networks/57073/ : > > "The decentralized nature of the Internet and the confusing thicket of independent public and private networks are limiting efforts to protect against attacks, Alexander signaled Friday at the Def Con hacker conference in Las Vegas." > > This is Gen. Alexander, head of the NSA... I'm not discounting the fact that some elements of the USG want to clamp down on this troublesome "freedom" thing. :) But look at the next sentence below what you quoted: Alexander used the speech to lobby for laws to make it easier for companies under attack to share information with the government and each other ... There are currently many DIS-incentives in place regarding companies sharing information about attacks, hacks, etc. -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909)
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