IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Fri, 26 December 2014 17:26 UTC

Return-Path: <dhc@dcrocker.net>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54631A90EB for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:26:47 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ru8-LoLUiZV6 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:26:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E97E1A9106 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:26:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [192.168.1.66] (76-218-8-156.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.218.8.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sBQHPwGL006913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:26:02 -0800
Message-ID: <549D9A14.2050103@dcrocker.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:25:40 -0800
From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps
References: <ED473823-2B1E-4431-8B42-393D20BA72DF@piuha.net> <549D8C57.8090402@nostrum.com> <EE91C0E7-0ED8-4AC2-8490-EF1D70ECC480@vpnc.org>
In-Reply-To: <EE91C0E7-0ED8-4AC2-8490-EF1D70ECC480@vpnc.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:26:02 -0800 (PST)
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/vzD-A80apapjG599xY7NHf0g80Y
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 17:26:48 -0000

On 12/26/2014 8:50 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> Maybe we can take a short hiatus from our relentless cute naming and call it what it is: UPPER.

That's reasonable.

An alternative that is equally un-cute but highlights one of the more
salient aspects of this realm of work:

   End2End (E2E)

The technologies in this new area all reside in the end systems, rather
than the underlying packet-switching infrastructure.

d/

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email