Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 13 November 2022 21:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media
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To: Samuel Weiler <weiler@csail.mit.edu>, iesg@ietf.org
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Hiya,

On 09/11/2022 18:31, Samuel Weiler wrote:
> Colleagues,
> 
> Do PR actions also apply to other-than-email IETF communications such as 
> Github, Slack, Zulip, and whatever new collaboration technologies we 
> adopt in the future?
> 
> I propose that they should and that we should not need to revise BCP 83 
> every time we add a new collaboration technology, and I'm hoping you 
> agree with me.
> 
> As history, RFC 3683 was published in March 2004, around the same time 
> the IETF was actively working on Jabber.

FWIW, I understand the dissonance, but disagree that BCP83
ought apply to anything other than mailing lists, as of now.
Chat rooms such as provided by zulip are an integral part of
meeting attendance (whether remote or in-person) and I don't
read BCP83 as encompassing controls as to who can attend
meetings. I do agree that if/when we revise BCP83 we ought
discuss this topic and make some changes though. (As I said
in the other thread, I hope we wait a year or more before
starting work on an update to BCP83.)

Cheers,
S.



> 
> -- Sam
>