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Re: A sad farewell

Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Wed, 04 November 2020 09:58 UTC

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From: Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: A sad farewell
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2020 20:58:24 +1100
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To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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 it's interesting reading the mail archives for this selected team:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-arch/41Yg6lCrDMwz90P3qdv9BNN5FCQ/

"This is an important effort for the IETF community"
- but it is not a community effort? How does the IETF run these days?

Lloyd Wood
lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk

looking forward to the Center for Democracy and Technology
resolving the US election and constitutional crisis. Go, team!


> On 4 Nov 2020, at 07:28, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
> 
> On 11/3/20 3:07 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> 
>> To me, IETF is best when it is driven by engagement of contributors,
>> and (rough) community consensus, and not by leadership decisions.
>> Unfortunately, i think we are shifting more and more to this leadership
>> preference based constrainment of innitiatives, innovation and activities,
>> spending more time on prohibiting activities than encouraging them.
>> This is IMHO, what is going to kill IETF if it continues.
> 
> +1.
> 
> The proper role of the leadership is to facilitate community consensus, but I keep seeing examples of leadership trying to dictate outcomes.
> 
> Keith
> 
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