Re: Things that used to be clear (was Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 04 July 2019 17:25 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 10:24:58 -0700
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Subject: Re: Things that used to be clear (was Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
Cc: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 10:08 AM Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
wrote:

> On 7/4/19 10:05 AM, Job Snijders wrote:
>
> > 3) Where EDs can really shine is that they provide stable URLs with a
> >     short identifier (like the RFCs and BCPs) that can be referenced.
> >
> > I'm interested to see if we can develop a document type that can
> > reflects a working group's understanding of a certain problem spaces
> > (like tls settings, cyphers, bgp filters), has received review from
> > subject matter experts (the working group participants), the WG chairs
> > and perhaps the AD. If these people agree that something is worthwhile
> > publishing on the stable URL; why not?
>
> Because it could easily have the extremely undesirable effect of
> promoting premature deployment.
>

It seems to me that this is the point of contention, namely that in certain
parts of the industry, there is a strong feeling that there is a lot of
value in widespread deployment of pre-standard protocols as long as the
versioning is done correctly, and so we do in fact want to promote
deployment.

-Ekr