Re: IETF and open source license compatibility
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 14 February 2009 19:11 UTC
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:11:07 +1300
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: IETF and open source license compatibility
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On 2009-02-15 03:44, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 09:12:16AM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> Or afterwards, since the license a contributor grants to the >> IETF Trust is non-exclusive. So contributing these words to the IETF >> does not affect in any way my ability to do as I wish with them >> after hitting the Send button. > > This is true, although it may be non-obvious to the reader of an RFC > that this is the case. Is it really the case that current IETF > polices and procedures do not allow the addition of a copyright > statement saying that the code in question is also licensed under some > other (preferably BSD-style) license? If so, perhaps the reason for > that restriction should be reconsidered? I'll leave the legal answer to a legal person, but in my mind the current rule doesn't forbid a factual statement in the document that a license such as you suggest below has been issued for (part of) the text. > > Or perhaps another way of solving this problem would be to allow the > author of the code in question to file an IPR disclosure stating that > "I, John Q. Smith, am the author of the code found in RFC XXX, and I > hereby also make it available under the terms of the following > (BSD-style) license...". It extends the scope of IPR disclosures > somewhat, but it would be a useful annotation. I think this is fairly clearly excluded from the definition of disclosures in RFC3979, but I can't see any reason why the IETF (or the Trust) couldn't provide a repository for such licenses. Brian
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