Re: If categories of people are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 30 January 2017 01:39 UTC

Subject: Re: If categories of people are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
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From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
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On 1/29/2017 5:31 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> I think the ACM text could be quite close to something
> on which we could garner IETF consensus as it mostly
> says just the above.

The folk at the head of the current administration don't care about such 
statements.  But perhaps others who can effect change might.

And yes, the ACM text is quite reasonable.

I suggest trying to get a /collection/ of related organizations to issue 
a joint text, with the goal of suggesting the aggregate damage that will 
accrue if "freedom of movement, association, expression and 
communication for scientists" is not permitted.

That is, build on the ACM effort, getting ISOC, W3C, IEEE, and more to 
sign it jointly.

d/

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   Dave Crocker
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