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Re: Describing which behavior is appropriate or not (was: Last Call: <draft-eggert-bcp45bis-06.txt> (IETF Discussion List Charter) to Best Current Practice)

Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Sun, 31 October 2021 10:07 UTC

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From: Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Describing which behavior is appropriate or not (was: Last Call: <draft-eggert-bcp45bis-06.txt> (IETF Discussion List Charter) to Best Current Practice)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:07:31 +1100
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To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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> On 31 Oct 2021, at 20:10, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
> 
>   But we have now become so fragmented that it's hard for us to discover new shared values or evolve the old ones.   I used to call this the Tower of Babel effect, but it's much worse now than it was when I first saw it happening in the late 1990s

You have an open git issue on a document, you can work on and resolve it without having to interact with anyone who might decrease your productivity.

Get with the program.

L.

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