Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards]
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 08 December 2024 01:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards]
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Hiya, On 07/12/2024 23:51, Carsten Bormann wrote: > any I-D) being inappropriate to cite Well, I-Ds truly are not great things to cite because: - if you only cite the file name(e.g. [1]) then the content may have changed when the reader gets to it - if you cite a specific draft number and a newer draft is ever created the reader won't know which was meant unless the author called that out, which is extremely rare - much more common would be that neither author nor reader really know any of these IETF/I-D minutiae. I don't think the above is at all affected by supposed expiry. I-Ds can be very useful things to reference and some such references are done well, but most in the academic literature are done seemingly carelessly or without really understanding what can change. S. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry/
- I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Carsten Bormann
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] John Levine
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Scott Bradner
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Carsten Bormann
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Stephen Farrell
- Re: I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Scott Bradner
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Joe Touch
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] John Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Watson Ladd
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Cloudflare/Argo error was Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry … Lloyd W
- Re: Cloudflare/Argo error was Re: [rfc-i] I-D exp… Robert Sparks
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Christian Huitema
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Bill Gage
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] John Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Bill Gage
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Rob Sayre
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Joel Halpern
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- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Nick Hilliard
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Joel Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Salz, Rich
- RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Michael Jones
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Christian Huitema
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Donald Eastlake
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Roman Danyliw
- RE: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Roman Danyliw
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rfc-i] I-D expiry [was Re: RFCs vs Standards] Phillip Hallam-Baker
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