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RE: ipv4 and ipv6 Coexistence.

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> Wed, 19 February 2020 17:35 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: ipv4 and ipv6 Coexistence.
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>> these numbers are ~2yrs old... but 25% is not "almost nobody".

Actually, devilations in percentages makes things worse, some think it is 25% others think it is 30% others think no IPv6 at all :) and all these percentages are incorrect because only one thing can make it clear, to find an official solution announced for everybody stating that what should we do in such situation.

Best Regards,

Khaled Omar

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To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
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Subject: Re: ipv4 and ipv6 Coexistence.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:28 AM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> wrote:

>
> From what I see in the real world, IPv4 still dominating and almost nobody started using IPv6, and also, I didn’t find any solution applied practically in today’s networks for this issue.
>

I don't think it's accurate to say: "almost nobody started using ipv6"

https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/2018/state-of-ipv6-deployment-2018/

these numbers are ~2yrs old... but 25% is not "almost nobody".

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