Re: Things that used to be clear (was Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Thu, 04 July 2019 14:05 UTC

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Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 16:05:52 +0200
From: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Cc: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Things that used to be clear (was Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)
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Dear all,

This discussion focusses on an potential aspect of evolving documents
that I didn't forsee, perhaps it helps if I clarify what I am looking
for.

1) EDs do *not* carry the label of IETF-wide consensus, afterall, such
   consensus currently is not part not part of the potential publication
   process for EDs.

2) EDs are probably unsuitable for protocol specifications or protocol
   extensions, because of (1)

3) Where EDs can really shine is that they provide stable URLs with a
   short identifier (like the RFCs and BCPs) that can be referenced.

I'm interested to see if we can develop a document type that can
reflects a working group's understanding of a certain problem spaces
(like tls settings, cyphers, bgp filters), has received review from
subject matter experts (the working group participants), the WG chairs
and perhaps the AD. If these people agree that something is worthwhile
publishing on the stable URL; why not?

Especially in context of elaborating on security aspects I believe there
can be value in a more expedient publishing process.

I'm looking for something that is a step up from a wiki page anyone can
edit without supervision, something slightly different than a draft as
drafts are what they are (maybe drafts are what a WG can promote to
ED?).

In any case, I'd like to have an open discussion whether we can device a
mechanism that addresses some things that aren't exactly the best fit
for the currently available options. I'm not interested to create
something that could update RFCs. I suspect EDs can exist to provide
more context around RFCs, such as use case documents, implementation
reports, security-related recommendation.

Kind regards,

Job