Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors
Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Tue, 17 September 2013 19:59 UTC
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On 9/17/2013 3:24 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: > On 9/17/13 11:14 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >> For example >> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3237.txt >> has 7 authors. I know that at least 4 affiliations have changed >> and at least you can't reach me anymore via the given e-mail >> address or telephone number. > > This is not the problem ORCID addresses, except indirectly. > It's a way to establish that the author Melinda Shore who > worked at Cisco is the same author Melinda Shore who worked > at the Center for Research Libraries. It is NOT a contact > mechanism, a personal tracking mechanism, etc. But how much of a problem is that? Why not advocate gmail.com, google+, facebook.com, linked-in? I registered at ORCID and it found a similar named registrant. It only wanted to know if it was me, if not then continue. But all the newsletter spam potential and privacy issues and even more in there, well, scared me. It had multiple levels of privacy to select and too much reading required to follow it. So I punted on that. Why can't the IETF offers its own signup requirement for I-D submissions where a contact id can be provided? The focus should be within the @IETF.ORG, not try to steer folks to use some 3rd party contact id where the IETF has no legal hold or control of any kind, in case, well, of the many things that can happen. Thanks -- HLS
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Brian E Carpenter
- ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Juliao Braga
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors joel jaeggli
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors David Morris
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Yoav Nir
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Greg Daley
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John R Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Joel M. Halpern
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Richardson
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Warren Kumari
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Steve Crocker
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Pat Thaler
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Carsten Bormann
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Tony Hansen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Yoav Nir
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Warren Kumari
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Juliao Braga
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors George Michaelson
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andrew G. Malis
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Ted Lemon
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Stephen Farrell
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Tony Hansen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Spencer Dawkins
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Noel Chiappa
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine