RE: Useful slide tex (was - Re: English spoken here)

"George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com> Mon, 03 December 2012 13:53 UTC

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From: "George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com>
To: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:53:37 -0500
Subject: RE: Useful slide tex (was - Re: English spoken here)
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> From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Melinda Shore
> it's kind of weird that we cut off discussion so that we can proceed to the
> next presentation.  It's done all the time (I've done it, myself) and
> while there's definitely a sense that we need to cover the material
> we've said we're going to cover in a meeting, why does breadth take
> priority over depth?
>

[WEG] I think this requires making a judgment call between a ratholed discussion, or an impasse between two strongly held opinions vs. meaningful progress. Sometimes the former and the latter masquerade as each other and are therefore mishandled.

Again, comes down to how the meeting is structured - do you prioritize a set of current drafts that need to have meaningful discussion, and accept the fact that presentations on new work might lose their timeslots if discussion runs long? I think that's an acceptable risk, especially since anyone who is technically on the agenda can build a presentation and have it be in the proceedings so that people can review after the meeting. I know I had more than one meeting where there were many valuable presentations, and a large number of them were added to the agenda with zero minutes allocated, so that they'd be ready if we had time to discuss them during the meeting once the priority discussions were completed, but also so they'd be in the proceedings when we didn't.

Wes George

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