Re: The ecosystem is moving

Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Fri, 13 May 2016 17:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: The ecosystem is moving
From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/13/2016 10:32 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>
>> I have to agree with Martin's general conclusions here: using XMPP is
>> really hard, both as an end-user and as a provider.   I am able to get
>> it working about one out of every three IETFs.  The sticky wicket tends
>> to be finding a place that will both host my XMPP account _and_
>> interoperate with the IETF's XMPP server.
>>
>> Why doesn't the IETF just operate an XMPP server on which IETF
>> participants can get accounts?   Layer 9, or is it just really hard?
>>
>
>
> Yes, but...
>
> The IETF is supposed to be about interoperability.  If XMPP has on-going
> utility problems with interoperability, the IETF should look for ways to
> fix them.
>
> To date, we really only have two services that demonstrate open (ie,
> multi-administration) interoperability at Internet scale:  email and DNS.
>
> After this many years, that's sad.
>
>
> d/
>
> --
>
>   Dave Crocker
>   Brandenburg InternetWorking
>   bbiw.net
>
>