RE: Oauth blog post

[Glen Zorn <[e-mail]>]

On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 16:58 -0400, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote:

> > From: Murray S. Kucherawy [[e-mail]]
> > 
> > I think it's impossible to determine with certainty whether someone
> > standing at the mic and asserting a position is doing so based on what
> > an employer is insisting on doing, or that person's opinion.
> 
> But it is possible, over a period of time, to get a good estimate of
> whether someone promotes technically poor solutions that are
> commercially advantageous for their employers.


Yes; those people generally (but not always) have fairly poor success
rates; OTOH, a lot of nonsense can be accomplished 
with sufficient manpower.


> 
> Indeed, relative to our fundamental principle of openness, "All may
> speak; not all are listened to.", in order to be listened to, someone
> has to spend some time to establish a reputation for technical quality
> of their contributions, and not being a shill for poor ideas advanced
> by their employers.


I suppose that that may be one reason why my experiences with corporate
manipulation (or domination, if you prefer) of the IETF have been of 
people with those very reputations blocking good ideas that threatened
the interests of their  employer.  It's pretty hard to get things done
in the IETF,
but quite easy to stop things, especially if one is in a position of
power.


> 
> Dale