Re: [saag] Is opportunistic unauthenticated encryption a waste of time?

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sun, 24 August 2014 23:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [saag] Is opportunistic unauthenticated encryption a waste of time?
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On 08/24/2014 05:42 PM, joel jaeggli wrote:
> On 8/24/14 7:10 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>> On 08/23/2014 06:05 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote:
[...]
>> 
>> It is quite often the case that, under oppressive regimes, using 
>> encryption technology will already flag you as "suspect" (if not 
>> "guilty"). So in that case, you'd probably want to use something 
>> probably want something more like a cover channel in those
>> scenarios.
> 
> it's already implausible in many cases  to seperate the sheep from
> the goats.
> 
> When was the last time you did a google search or accessed a
> twitter feed in the clear?

Good luck explaining that to the oppressive regime.

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Fernando Gont
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