Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "IETF work is done on the mailing lists")
Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Thu, 29 November 2012 23:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "IETF work is done on the mailing lists")
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On 11/29/12 2:32 PM, George, Wes wrote: > [WEG] I'm sorry if it was unclear, but I am not saying that > *everything* must be specified, nor do I think anyone should > undertake an effort to even identify all of the things that are > currently unspecified. I'm pointing out a specific area of confusion > and inconsistency that has been created by something that is > unspecified and asking "should we specify?" I'm not very clear on what problem you're trying to solve, or why it's a problem. I've seen some stuff around working group draft adoption that I don't like very much but am not sure that I'd identify those as a "problem," per se, or that they would be done better with yet another process document. Lo, those many years ago I co-chaired (with Avri Doria) the "problem" working group. It was a very bad experience, and I think left me convinced that dorking around with formalizing process stuff should absolutely not be done unless someone's identified a specific problem that interferes with getting documents out. Process we just don't happen to like is not a problem. Melinda
- When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "IETF … George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Brian Trammell
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Adrian Farrel
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Geoff Huston
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Melinda Shore
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Randy Bush
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Adrian Farrel
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Geoff Huston
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Spencer Dawkins
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Melinda Shore
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Dave Crocker
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Dave Crocker
- Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Dave Crocker
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Dave Crocker
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft SM
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Randy Bush
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Randy Bush
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Randy Bush
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft (off-top… SM
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Russ Housley
- RE: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Adrian Farrel
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Dave Crocker
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Abdussalam Baryun