Re: several messages
David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> Thu, 13 November 2008 05:02 UTC
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:02:17 -0800
From: David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com>
To: Al Iverson <aiverson@spamresource.com>
Subject: Re: several messages
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Al Iverson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:37 PM, David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Al Iverson wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:08 PM, David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> wrote: > >> > >> > In the end, walking isn't a viable alternative. > >> > >> Because it's so hard to open a Gmail account? I think your thinking > >> here is about two generations out of date. Back in 1995 when we each > >> had our one dialup account, and webmail was much less common and > >> acceptable, your point would have been more valid. > > > > C'mon ... my example contractor has printed collateral, web pages, etc. > > all with his email address. Changing an email address is non-trivial for > > folks who don't have any need to register their own domain name. Even > > those who have a web serving domain often have no business need for > > email. > > The professional who has printed their AOL.com email address on their > business card has problems that are far greater than, and not unique > to, an ISP's use of DNSBLs. I never said they used aol.com ... only that it was a major ISP. Both that ISP and aol *HAVE* worked to deal with issues I've had. Other ISPs have not. It was still a waste of my time. My point is that it is difficult to change email addresses because there are lots of references which have value. Business cards are one example. All other business printed materials are another. Every customer's mail folders are another. Simply walking from an ISP isn't an easy choice. This is particularily true for folks for home computer technology is simply a tool they use to communicate. This general issue is well enough understood that the FCC forced phone companies and cellular carriers to provide number portability to insure folks with an investment in their phone number could take advantage of competition. Dave Morris _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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