Re: SDNAuth - Secure SDN authentication and authorization - Interested?

Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Wed, 04 February 2015 20:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: SDNAuth - Secure SDN authentication and authorization - Interested?
From: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
To: Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org>
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Do I understand this right? The original mailing list was shut down by the
IETF, and folks are now complaining that the third party list isn't an IETF
one? Seriously?
On 4 Feb 2015 14:29, "Tobias Gondrom" <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> wrote:

>  On 04/02/15 21:12, Ted Lemon wrote:
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> On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> wrote:
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>  just fyi: the mailing-list does on its sign-up page (in the first line) make the explicit statement to operate under the IETF Notewell:https://mail.rozanak.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnauth
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> That's precisely what I would advise doing in this situation.   It might be worth adding that the list is informal and is not sponsored by the IETF, though; otherwise people might get the impression that it's an official IETF mailing list.   You should also disclose whether or not the list is being archived, although since it's not an IETF mailing list, whether you do so is not up to us.   If the list is not archived, however, it might be difficult and involve a painful discovery process if for some reason the Note Well had to be enforced in a lawsuit.  So while keeping an archive places an additional burden on Hosnieh, it is probably a win for other participants.
>
> (And yes, I realize you were talking to the other Ted... :)
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>
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> Just fyi: I am not the administrator of the mailing-list. I just happened
> to sign-up and noticed that the notewell is/was already there on the
> sign-up page. It seems the new list only got needed up as the Sec AD
> (Kathleen) shut down the previous IETF BOF mailing-list.
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> And to answer your second question: it appears the new list is being
> archived, as is also a basic mailman function.
>
> Best regards, Tobias
>