Re: BCP97bis and "freely available"

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 19 October 2021 02:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: BCP97bis and "freely available"
To: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>, Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@alumni.stanford.edu>
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On 19-Oct-21 13:28, George Michaelson wrote:
> Good to see. I'd say "wow, I think thats a change of posture" but who
> knows: maybe I was woefully misinformed at the time?

No, it was a significant change on the ITU side. Especially significant
because it was around June 1991 when Carl Malamud** and Tony Rutkowski
started project BRUNO to get the relevant CCITT standards on-line for
free.  The experiment didn't survive very long, and its 30th anniversary
is already past. The eventual change of policy was in 2007, says Google.

    Brian

** If you haven't read Carl's book "Exploring the Internet" you've missed
a treat, and he covers Project Bruno among much else.

> 
> It was a long time ago. nearly 30 years ago.
> 
> -G
> 
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:26 AM Randy Presuhn
> <randy_presuhn@alumni.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> On 2021-10-18 4:03 PM, George Michaelson wrote:
>> ...
>>> So, the existence of some X-series documents outside the paywall is
>>> the exception, not the normality, as I understand it.
>> ...
>>
>>  From https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/publications/Pages/recs.aspx :
>> "The vast majority of all Recommendations are available in electronic
>> (PDF) form, free of charge to all, once the final, edited version is
>> published."
>>
>> For example, lots of interesting stuff is listed on
>> https://www.itu.int/itu-t/recommendations/index.aspx?ser=X
>>
>> Randy
>>
>