Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations
Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Fri, 25 March 2016 10:45 UTC
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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 06:44:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 6:06 AM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote: > Hello, > At 15:03 29-02-2016, Jari Arkko wrote: >> >> The team has been working and they have today published >> an -00 draft. We'd love to have your feedback and thoughts >> on this topic! > > > The draft is interesting. Some of the topics which might be of interest > are: succession planning, fragmentation and cross-culture communication. > > If I am not mistaken it is the first time that a (IETF) draft acknowledges > that politics and technology are intertwined. I guess it depends on what you mean by politics. There have certainly been drafts that discuss law and policy considerations of potential IETF standards, including this one from us from 2003 (long before I was here at CDT), that while it never was seen through to official Informational RFC status, still has a lot of good material in it: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morris-policy-considerations-00 "This document is motivated by the recognition that technical design decisions made within the IETF and other standards bodies can have significant impacts on public policy concerns." -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 CDT's annual dinner, Tech Prom, is April 6, 2016! https://cdt.org/annual-dinner
- Getting off Things - namely this mailing list tom p.
- Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting… Jari Arkko
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Linda Dunbar
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Jari Arkko
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Dave Cridland
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Randy Bush
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Melinda Shore
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Randy Bush
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Security for the Internet of Things and Other Thi… Jari Arkko
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Jari Arkko
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Michael Richardson
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Michael Richardson
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Carsten Bormann
- Getting on with Things Eliot Lear
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Theodore V Faber
- RE: Getting on with Things Adrian Farrel
- Re: Getting on with Things Carsten Bormann
- Re: Getting on with Things Stewart Bryant
- Re: Getting on with Things Carsten Bormann
- Re: Getting on with Things Stewart Bryant
- Re: Getting on with Things Eliot Lear
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Getting on with Things Michael Richardson
- Re: Getting on with Things Carsten Bormann
- Re: Getting on with Things Medel Ramirez
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Getting on with Things Gmail
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Livingood, Jason
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Scott Kitterman
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Eliot Lear
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Dave Crocker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Jari Arkko
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… l.wood
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… George Michaelson
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Eggert, Lars
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… lloyd.wood
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Eggert, Lars
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… S Moonesamy
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… S Moonesamy
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Randy Bush
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Russ White
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Melinda Shore
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Eliot Lear