Re: Minor philosophical update to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 05 July 2017 21:24 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: Minor philosophical update to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 17:24:15 -0400
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On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:29 PM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> It really isn't helpful to rephrase other people's statements and get them wrong, particularly when everyone can just read the original.

Actually it is helpful, because if you get it wrong, they clarify.   I'm sorry for having gotten it wrong, of course, but that's how I read what you said.