Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 02 June 2020 13:28 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 06:27:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 6:16 AM Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:

> Eric Rescorla wrote on 02/06/2020 13:57:
> > This seems like entirely appropriate practice on short notice.
>
> neither side's position seems unreasonable from their own point of view:
> the LLC needs to make executive decisions and sometimes these will be
> problematic. Conversely, the IETF community has an expectation that
> there's engagement about policy changes before they happen.
>

Hmm... This doesn't seem like the right framing to me in several respects:

First, I think everyone agrees that some kinds of policy changes would need
consultation. For instance, if the LLC were to decide that in perpetuity we
were not to havemeetings or that we were to have 6 a year, that would
clearly need consultation. On the other hand, I (would hope) that everyone
agrees that some changes could be made by executive  decision. For
instance, moving the refund date forward or back by a day would I hope not
require community consultation. So the question at hand is what kind of
decision this is.

Second, as you can see from the thread above, it's not correct that "the
iETF community" has an expectation they should have been consulted about
this in advance. Rather, part of the IETF community does and some of it
thinks this was fine.

-Ekr