Re: IAB agendas now public

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Thu, 06 September 2018 12:30 UTC

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>> Yes. And I didn't mean that all politics should be in executive
>> session. It's just that if the IAB needs to discuss how it should
>> respond to external politically charged events, the discussion would
>> happen in one of three ways:
>>
>> 1. In an open session, in which case the IAB would be showing its
>> weaknesses to the other parties.
>>
>> 2. In an executive session.
>>
>> 3. If #2 is not an option, in a secret meeting.
>>
>> I like #3 less than #2. So if there's to be a new dispensation,
>> I think the IAB needs to be able to hold executive sessions about
>> external (non-I*TF) matters as well as the usual HR/legal matters.
>> In general, I don't see why internal I*TF matters would need
>> secrecy.
> 
> The IAB does a lot of discussions with external partners. Sometimes that
> involves bargaining, and bargaining often involves a part of bluff. One
> of the concerns is that if the IAB entirely discusses its bargaining
> positions in open meetings, then the other party will effectively see
> through the bluff, and the IAB/IETF negotiation position will be much
> weakened.

so holding a secret meeting within a closed meeting to discuss a bof on
the rfc series is
  o perfectly fine
  o a lapse of judgement (of course i have none of those :)
  o a lapse of process
  o your ad goes here?

randy