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Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Mon, 21 November 2016 14:51 UTC

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:50:39 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Alexander Nevalennyy <avnevalenniy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topic IPv6
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 05:39:37PM +0300,
 Alexander Nevalennyy <avnevalenniy@gmail.com> wrote 
 a message of 126 lines which said:

> 1. Again, it is not about privacy. When you work with IPv6 address,
> nobody knows that it was you, like with numbers of cell phones (if
> you did not share information).

You really should read a few texts about privacy. Here, you make the
traditional error of mixing anonymity (no tracability) and
pseudonymity (identifiers which are not your official name). 

> We are here to discuss but not only criticize (it is too simple).

We cannot discuss on the basis of just a few slides. Either you have a
serious proposal, and it can be discussed and criticized, or you just
have a few slides and, then, I can say that I spent as much time on
this proposal as you have spent writing it.

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