Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers

Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org> Fri, 04 July 2008 00:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:47:37 +1000
Cc: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, ietf@ietf.org, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>, Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
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> In fact many ISP's only allow their clients to update the forward maps since 
> they don't want to set those blocks of addresses into SWIPPED mode.
> 
> T.

	It's quite possible to allow individual machines to update
	their reverse records without having to delegate the name
	space to the customer.  TCP is a strong enough authenticator
	for this role.

	Mark

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Manning" <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
> To: "Mark Andrews" <Mark_Andrews@isc.org>
> Cc: "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us>; "Dave Crocker" 
> <dcrocker@bbiw.net>; "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>; <ietf@ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers
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> 
> > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 07:57:58AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
> >>
> >> A mobile machine can register its current addresses in the
> >> DNS regardless much more easily than it can register its
> >> reverse PTR records.
> >
> > er... both are registering things in the DNS. manipulation
> > of the farward map is occasionally easier than manipulation
> > of the reverse map... which i think is what you are trying
> > to say.
> >
> > and it is often true that those who manage the forward DNS map
> > are -NOT- the same folks that manage the reverse DNS map.
> >
> >
> > --bill
> >
> > Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
> > certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise).
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