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Re: Old directions in social media.

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 05 January 2021 19:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
To: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
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Kyle, I did not claim that every conversation should be on the mailing list.
I do claim that all WG conversations need to be visible and 
understandable on the WG email list.  And specifically that anything 
else is disenfranchising part of the community.  Which is what you were 
disagreeing with.

Yours,
Joel

On 1/5/2021 1:07 PM, Kyle Rose wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 12:53 PM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com 
> <mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com>> wrote:
> 
>     The other is that a number of people have objected to the requirement
>     that it be possible to effectively participate in all WG discussions
>     via
>     email.
> 
> 
> This conceit has never been true. Conversations happen one-on-one, as 
> well as in person. Not every change a document goes through is discussed 
> on the mailing list, something that was true even in the pre-GitHub era. 
> Editors even make changes unilaterally, without telling anyone! (Crazy, 
> right?)
> 
> Kyle

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