Re: [ietf80-1st-timers] Meet and Greet Invitation
Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com> Fri, 25 March 2011 20:20 UTC
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From: Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com>
To: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:22:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: [ietf80-1st-timers] Meet and Greet Invitation
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I've been to a couple of these and have never been short of conversations with newcomers - I'm not sure if this is due to the intrinsic enchantment of OSPF or my proximity to the free beer and wine :^). The one thing that WG chairs do need to do is to avoid the temptation to simply talk to one another. Thanks, Acee On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > I agree, but in a different way. IMO, the meet-and-greet isn't just > about the WGs the newbies came for, but to help understand the entire > breadth of what the IETF does. Introduce your areas of interest, and > discuss your WGs too. Newbies need to know the broader context in which > their work occurs. > > Joe > > On 3/25/2011 12:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Balderdash. If you don't know about that WG and you don't know the >> chairs, track down an AD for that area. If you don't know the AD for the >> area, track down an AD you know. If that AD doesn't know the AD for the >> area, we have big problems. :) >> >> On 3/25/11 1:21 PM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote: >>> If I arrive in time, I (and the rest of the WG chairs) will all be >>> walking around with labels attached to our badges saying which >>> working group we are. >>> >>> The problem I find is that when I go up to one of the newcomers >>> cowering nervously in a corner, I usually find he or she is >>> interested in a working group I know absolutely nothing about. So >>> apart from making some general comments on what they should or should >>> not do, I find the communication a bit of a non-starter. >>> >>> So in the absence of any better method of initiating this >>> communication, the newcomers have to approach the WG chairs if you >>> want to be sure of success. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >>>> [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre >>>> Sent: 25 March 2011 15:51 To: John C Klensin Cc: IETF Working Group >>>> Chairs; ietf80-1st-timers@ietf.org Subject: Re: Meet and Greet >>>> Invitation >>>> >>>> Yes, I try to break up those little groups, too. :) >>>> >>>> On 3/25/11 9:35 AM, John C Klensin wrote: >>>>> Let me add one additional suggestion to Ross's note (and with the >>>>> same disclaimer) for those first-time attendees who are coming: >>>>> >>>>> Most of the "leadership" folks who attend will have spent much of >>>>> Sunday in intense meetings of various sorts. Often, usually quite >>>>> unintentionally, they will end up in little clusters continuing >>>>> those conversations or talking about WG management issues. That >>>>> is not what they are at the event for and they know it. Don't >>>>> hesitate to interrupt those conversations to introduce >>>>> yourselves, ask questions, etc. If necessary, think of it as >>>>> helping them earn their free beer and wine. >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --On Friday, March 25, 2011 08:21 -0400 Ross Callon >>>>> <rcallon@juniper.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> First time attendees might want to note (with the understanding >>>>>> that I am not involved in any way with organizing these events, >>>>>> and am just speaking from personal experience): >>>>>> >>>>>> The meet and greet from 4 to 5 is a relatively small event >>>>>> (just first time attendees and IETF leadership, such as working >>>>>> group chairs, are invited). This gives you a better chance to >>>>>> chat with WG chairs and others in the leadership. Also, at >>>>>> least in my experience the wine and beer has generally been >>>>>> free at this event. >>>>>> >>>>>> The IETF Welcome Reception that follows is a larger event, >>>>>> where you will see a wider range of IETF attendees. However, >>>>>> you will need to pay for the wine and beer at the welcome >>>>>> reception. >>>>>> >>>>>> So there is good motivation to attend both events! >>
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