Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted
Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> Wed, 30 October 2019 07:16 UTC
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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>
CC: Michael McBride <michael.mcbride@futurewei.com>, "Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" <mankamis@cisco.com>, Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>, Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted
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The survey sounds good to me. We can point NANOG (and other NOGs, like UKNOF, and the R&E campus communities) at that. Are we thinking text-based or using something like SurveyMonkey? Tim On 30 Oct 2019, at 03:04, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com<mailto:stig@venaas.com>> wrote: Hi It's not strictly needed, but I think it is helpful, and the hardest part, creating the survey, is already done. I think we should move forward. Without the survey we can only speculate about what is out there. I think it is really useful data. Stig On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 18:04 Michael McBride <michael.mcbride@futurewei.com<mailto:michael.mcbride@futurewei.com>> wrote: Hi all, I had a chat with Alyssa Cooper, here at Nanog, to discuss how best to engage the operators to move an rfc to internet standard. She recommended not doing a survey, saying its probably unnecessary. We can certainly still send it as it worked with pim-sm. Or we can simply email the nanog list (and I2 and ?) and explain our intention to move 3376/3810 to Internet standard and see if they +1. What say ye? mike From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:25 PM To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>; igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org<mailto:igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> Cc: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk<mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>>; Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com<mailto:stig@venaas.com>>; Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com<mailto:mmcbride7@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Done From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 4:23 PM To: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org<mailto:igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org<mailto:igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>> Cc: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk<mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>>, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com<mailto:stig@venaas.com>>, Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com<mailto:mmcbride7@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted The naming of the drafts has been a bit messy. We’ve had: draft-volunteers-pim-igmp-mld-bis-00.txt draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-bis-00 draft-eckert-pim-igmp-mld-questionnaire-00 Rather than creating a new document the WG chairs suggested creating draft-eckert-pim-igmp-mld-questionnaire-01 which I have just posted. The -00 does not have the email address of some of the co-authors including myself. Therefore, can someone whose email address was on the previous revision and so got a notification please approve the publication? Regards, Femi On 28 Oct 2019, at 01:15, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com<mailto:femi@arista.com>> wrote: HI, I’ve posted the updated version of the draft. I could not update the original draft which has since expired as my email address was omitted on the original draft (https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/status/102921/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fsubmit%2Fstatus%2F102921%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.mcbride%40futurewei.com%7C61e4cbd6e942426890a608d75cc73d31%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C637079883125293782&sdata=h6KOHsVyutaGKamll%2BXua0AWqjksmttOnmohIrnQ438%3D&reserved=0>) and so I’ve simply posted a new draft which I’ve attached FYI. Regards, Femi <draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-update-survey-00.txt>
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Michael McBride
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Stig Venaas
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Tim Chown
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Tim Chown
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Tim Chown
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Michael McBride
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Tim Chown
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Tim Chown
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] New draft posted Tim Chown
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Mike McBride
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] IGMPv3 / MLDv2 survey Tim Chown
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