Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?

Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> Tue, 23 July 2019 15:41 UTC

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I guess I'm also fine at 1pm.


> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:36, Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu> wrote:
> 
> I can be free at 1.
> 
> ~Tim
> 
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> Perhaps we can meet at 1pm then if that works better?  Perhaps Tim will be free by then too?
> 
> We can meet on the first floor, perhaps at the entrance to Laurier?
> 
> Regards,
> Femi
> 
> > On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:30, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > 
> > How long do you think ? 12:30 ?
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28:50AM -0400, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote:
> >> Ah, sorry, I'm also booked another meeting this noon.
> >> But whenever my meeting is over, I try to join.
> >> Sorry about that.
> >> 
> >> Hitoshi
> >> 
> >>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:24, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Sounds good. Foyer = ground floor of hotel ?!
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:46:27AM -0400, Olufemi Komolafe wrote:
> >>>> Does meeting at noon today still work for the folks in Montreal?  If so, shall we just meet in the foyer and we can grab a spot to chat?
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think our goal should be to try to ensure there???s nothing outstanding and finalise what we should tell the WG chairs to try to progress this work, hopefully this week.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Femi
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:45, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I???ll be there too.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So I believe we have Tim, Toerless, Hitoshi and myself.  Anyone else?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Shall we try to meet on Tuesday, then?  Say at noon?  Anyone that does not suit?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Nice work getting a response to the survey, Hitoshi.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Femi
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 11:28, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'll be there.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm sorry I've not contributed to this draft update.
> >>>>>> I'm not an operator and have no information privately, but I asked one Japanese operator to give some input based on the questionnaire and got it. I hope it can be a good input.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hitoshi
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ===from here===
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.2.  Questionnaire for Network Operators
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Name: Takatoshi Ikeda
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Affiliation/Organization: APAN-JP
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Contact Email: ops@jp.apan.net
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Do you wish to keep your name and affiliation confidential?:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.2.1.  Deployment Status
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Which of the following are currently deployed in your network?  And
> >>>>>> for how long has it been deployed?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 1.  IGMPv1 [RFC1112] deployed?: N, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 2.  IGMPv2 [RFC2236] deployed?: Y, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.  IGMPv3 [RFC3376] deployed?: Y, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 4.  Lightweight IGMPv3 [RFC5790] Implemented: N, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 5.  MLDv1 [RFC2710] deployed?: Y, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 6.  MLDv2 [RFC3810] deployed?: Y, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 7.  Lightweight MLDv2 [RFC5790] deployed?: N, since:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.2.2.  Deployment Specifics
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 1.  Which IGMPv3 features are in use?  (Is Exclude mode with source
> >>>>>>    list in use?)
> >>>>>>     Membership-report for SSM
> >>>>>>     No filter function is used.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 2.  Which MLDv2 features are in use?  (Is Exclude mode with source
> >>>>>>    list in use?)
> >>>>>>     Membership-report for SSM
> >>>>>>     No filter function is used.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.  Does your network rely on the fallback mechanism between
> >>>>>>    different IGMP versions?  (Between which IGMP versions?)  (What
> >>>>>>    is your experience with this fallback mechanism?)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>     No
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 4.  Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor)
> >>>>>>    implementations for your deployment?  (Have you encountered any
> >>>>>>    inter-operability or backward-compatibility issues amongst
> >>>>>>    differing implementations?)  (What are your concerns about these
> >>>>>>    issues?)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>    No
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.2.3.  Deployment Perspectives
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 1.  What have you found to be the strengths of IGMPv3/MLDv2?
> >>>>>>    Specifying Source for Multicast
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 2.  What have you found to be the weaknesses of IGMPv3/MLDv2?
> >>>>>>    None
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.  What suggestions would you make to the PIM WG as it seeks to
> >>>>>>    update these documents?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ===to here===
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:59, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I hope i can go to IETF105 and would be happy to meet. Have not tried to
> >>>>>>> work out my schedule, but if i am there, it will be whole week.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Who else is coming ?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>> Toerless
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:07:55PM +0000, Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>> This IETF I would not be able to make it.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> Mankamana
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>
> >>>>>>>> Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:06 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I'm available Tuesday morning.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> ~Tim
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Not sure who is attending IETF 105 in Montreal next week but I was thinking that perhaps those of us attending can fix a time/place to meet up?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> It might be an idea to meet on Monday or Tuesday, i.e. before the PIM WG meeting on Thursday, to try to progress and finalise the survey?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Also, there have been some discussions on the thread recently so it???d be good for folks to please take a look and provide any thoughts/feedback?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> In my opinion, we should aim to handing over the survey to the WG chairs before the meeting so the focus can shift on to starting the actual mechanics of distributing the survey etc.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Femi
> >>>>>>>> 
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