Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> Thu, 29 August 2019 08:52 UTC
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From: Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com>
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:52:25 +0100
Cc: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>, Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk, "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
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Nice one Mike. I will update the draft…. Regards, Femi > On 29 Aug 2019, at 01:58, Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com> wrote: > > OK I just submitted a lightning talk proposal for the upcoming NANOG > to get the word out at least to the N. Amer community. So at least we > have a deadline to get this finalized. > > So who wants to update the draft per the discussion we had in the last > pim meeting and get this thing done? If no one volunteers I'll have a > go. Then Stig and I can work on polling the various communities. At > the next ietf we can then report that we have polled the communities > and are gathering the responses. Sound good? > > thanks, > mike > > > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 2:16 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote: >> >> Mike, >> >> >>> On 6 Aug 2019, at 00:07, Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The next NANOG is Oct 28-30 in Austin, TX. May help to request time >>> (perhaps lightening talk) to discuss this effort and get feedback from >>> N. American Operators. I'm going to try to be there. >>> >> >> Sounds like a good idea :-) >> >> Regards, >> Femi >> >>> mike >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:38 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks folks for catching up. >>>> >>>> Points collected: >>>> >>>> a) Tim Chown: When you get irregular responses like "i do not understand >>>> the questions", please inform us (anonymized). >>>> >>>> b) Let discuss during WG meeting ideas whom to send to: >>>> groups, e.g.: >>>> internet2 multicast group >>>> multiplicators, e.g.: >>>> Dino Farinacci (still working with a customer, knowin operators). >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Toerless >>>> >>>> In-Reply-To: <20190723154907.3b74oiijconcdgjv@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote: >>>>> I need to chair my WG at 1:30, so meet would be nice, but i don't think >>>>> that time then is sufficient to go to some lunch place, so if anybody >>>>> is interest to go to llunch at noon, let me know, i will be back at 1PM >>>>> before Laurier to meet. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:36:17AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote: >>>>>> I can be free at 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi= >>>>>> 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps we can meet at 1pm then if that works better? Perhaps Tim will be >>>>>>> free by then too? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can meet on the first floor, perhaps at the entrance to Laurier? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:30, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How long do you think ? 12:30 ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28:50AM -0400, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote: >>>>>>>>> Ah, sorry, I'm also booked another meeting this noon. >>>>>>>>> But whenever my meeting is over, I try to join. >>>>>>>>> Sorry about that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hitoshi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:24, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sounds good. Foyer = ground floor of hotel ?! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:46:27AM -0400, Olufemi Komolafe wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Does meeting at noon today still work for the folks in Montreal? If >>>>>>> so, shall we just meet in the foyer and we can grab a spot to chat? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think our goal should be to try to ensure there???s nothing >>>>>>> outstanding and finalise what we should tell the WG chairs to try to >>>>>>> progress this work, hopefully this week. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:45, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I???ll be there too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So I believe we have Tim, Toerless, Hitoshi and myself. Anyone else? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we try to meet on Tuesday, then? Say at noon? Anyone that >>>>>>> does not suit? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nice work getting a response to the survey, Hitoshi. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 11:28, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be there. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've not contributed to this draft update. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not an operator and have no information privately, but I asked >>>>>>> one Japanese operator to give some input based on the questionnaire and got >>>>>>> it. I hope it can be a good input. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hitoshi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ===from here=== >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2. Questionnaire for Network Operators >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Name: Takatoshi Ikeda >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Affiliation/Organization: APAN-JP >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact Email: ops@jp.apan.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you wish to keep your name and affiliation confidential?: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.1. Deployment Status >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which of the following are currently deployed in your network? And >>>>>>>>>>>>> for how long has it been deployed? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. IGMPv1 [RFC1112] deployed?: N, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. IGMPv2 [RFC2236] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. IGMPv3 [RFC3376] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Lightweight IGMPv3 [RFC5790] Implemented: N, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. MLDv1 [RFC2710] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. MLDv2 [RFC3810] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Lightweight MLDv2 [RFC5790] deployed?: N, since: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.2. Deployment Specifics >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Which IGMPv3 features are in use? (Is Exclude mode with source >>>>>>>>>>>>> list in use?) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership-report for SSM >>>>>>>>>>>>> No filter function is used. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Which MLDv2 features are in use? (Is Exclude mode with source >>>>>>>>>>>>> list in use?) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership-report for SSM >>>>>>>>>>>>> No filter function is used. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Does your network rely on the fallback mechanism between >>>>>>>>>>>>> different IGMP versions? (Between which IGMP versions?) (What >>>>>>>>>>>>> is your experience with this fallback mechanism?) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor) >>>>>>>>>>>>> implementations for your deployment? (Have you encountered any >>>>>>>>>>>>> inter-operability or backward-compatibility issues amongst >>>>>>>>>>>>> differing implementations?) (What are your concerns about these >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues?) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.3. Deployment Perspectives >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. What have you found to be the strengths of IGMPv3/MLDv2? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Specifying Source for Multicast >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. What have you found to be the weaknesses of IGMPv3/MLDv2? >>>>>>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. What suggestions would you make to the PIM WG as it seeks to >>>>>>>>>>>>> update these documents? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ===to here=== >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:59, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope i can go to IETF105 and would be happy to meet. Have not >>>>>>> tried to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work out my schedule, but if i am there, it will be whole week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who else is coming ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toerless >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:07:55PM +0000, Mankamana Mishra >>>>>>> (mankamis) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This IETF I would not be able to make it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mankamana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of >>>>>>> Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:06 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm available Tuesday morning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Olufemi Komolafe <femi= >>>>>>> 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure who is attending IETF 105 in Montreal next week but I >>>>>>> was thinking that perhaps those of us attending can fix a time/place to >>>>>>> meet up? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It might be an idea to meet on Monday or Tuesday, i.e. before the >>>>>>> PIM WG meeting on Thursday, to try to progress and finalise the survey? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, there have been some discussions on the thread recently so >>>>>>> it???d be good for folks to please take a look and provide any >>>>>>> thoughts/feedback? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, we should aim to handing over the survey to the WG >>>>>>> chairs before the meeting so the focus can shift on to starting the actual >>>>>>> mechanics of distributing the survey etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org<mailto:Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --- >>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --- >>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Stig Venaas
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Mike McBride
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