Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 23 July 2019 17:38 UTC

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:37:47 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>, Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk
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Thanks folks for catching up.

Points collected:

a) Tim Chown: When you get irregular responses like "i do not understand
   the questions", please inform us (anonymized).

b) Let discuss during WG meeting ideas whom to send to:
    groups, e.g.:
      internet2 multicast group
    multiplicators, e.g.:
      Dino Farinacci (still working with a customer, knowin operators).

Cheers
    Toerless

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On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> I need to chair my WG at 1:30, so meet would be nice, but i don't think
> that time then is sufficient to go to some lunch place, so if anybody
> is interest to go to llunch at noon, let me know, i will be back at 1PM
> before Laurier to meet.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:36:17AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote:
> > I can be free at 1.
> > 
> > ~Tim
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi=
> > 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Perhaps we can meet at 1pm then if that works better?  Perhaps Tim will be
> > > free by then too?
> > >
> > > We can meet on the first floor, perhaps at the entrance to Laurier?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Femi
> > >
> > > > On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:30, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How long do you think ? 12:30 ?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28:50AM -0400, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote:
> > > >> Ah, sorry, I'm also booked another meeting this noon.
> > > >> But whenever my meeting is over, I try to join.
> > > >> Sorry about that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hitoshi
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:24, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sounds good. Foyer = ground floor of hotel ?!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:46:27AM -0400, Olufemi Komolafe wrote:
> > > >>>> Does meeting at noon today still work for the folks in Montreal?  If
> > > so, shall we just meet in the foyer and we can grab a spot to chat?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I think our goal should be to try to ensure there???s nothing
> > > outstanding and finalise what we should tell the WG chairs to try to
> > > progress this work, hopefully this week.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regards,
> > > >>>> Femi
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:45, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I???ll be there too.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> So I believe we have Tim, Toerless, Hitoshi and myself.  Anyone else?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Shall we try to meet on Tuesday, then?  Say at noon?  Anyone that
> > > does not suit?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Nice work getting a response to the survey, Hitoshi.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>> Femi
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 11:28, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi folks,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I'll be there.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I'm sorry I've not contributed to this draft update.
> > > >>>>>> I'm not an operator and have no information privately, but I asked
> > > one Japanese operator to give some input based on the questionnaire and got
> > > it. I hope it can be a good input.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hitoshi
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ===from here===
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.2.  Questionnaire for Network Operators
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Name: Takatoshi Ikeda
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Affiliation/Organization: APAN-JP
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Contact Email: ops@jp.apan.net
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Do you wish to keep your name and affiliation confidential?:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.2.1.  Deployment Status
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Which of the following are currently deployed in your network?  And
> > > >>>>>> for how long has it been deployed?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1.  IGMPv1 [RFC1112] deployed?: N, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 2.  IGMPv2 [RFC2236] deployed?: Y, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.  IGMPv3 [RFC3376] deployed?: Y, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 4.  Lightweight IGMPv3 [RFC5790] Implemented: N, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 5.  MLDv1 [RFC2710] deployed?: Y, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 6.  MLDv2 [RFC3810] deployed?: Y, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 7.  Lightweight MLDv2 [RFC5790] deployed?: N, since:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.2.2.  Deployment Specifics
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1.  Which IGMPv3 features are in use?  (Is Exclude mode with source
> > > >>>>>>    list in use?)
> > > >>>>>>     Membership-report for SSM
> > > >>>>>>     No filter function is used.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 2.  Which MLDv2 features are in use?  (Is Exclude mode with source
> > > >>>>>>    list in use?)
> > > >>>>>>     Membership-report for SSM
> > > >>>>>>     No filter function is used.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.  Does your network rely on the fallback mechanism between
> > > >>>>>>    different IGMP versions?  (Between which IGMP versions?)  (What
> > > >>>>>>    is your experience with this fallback mechanism?)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>     No
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 4.  Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor)
> > > >>>>>>    implementations for your deployment?  (Have you encountered any
> > > >>>>>>    inter-operability or backward-compatibility issues amongst
> > > >>>>>>    differing implementations?)  (What are your concerns about these
> > > >>>>>>    issues?)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>    No
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.2.3.  Deployment Perspectives
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1.  What have you found to be the strengths of IGMPv3/MLDv2?
> > > >>>>>>    Specifying Source for Multicast
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 2.  What have you found to be the weaknesses of IGMPv3/MLDv2?
> > > >>>>>>    None
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 3.  What suggestions would you make to the PIM WG as it seeks to
> > > >>>>>>    update these documents?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ===to here===
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:59, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I hope i can go to IETF105 and would be happy to meet. Have not
> > > tried to
> > > >>>>>>> work out my schedule, but if i am there, it will be whole week.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Who else is coming ?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Cheers
> > > >>>>>>> Toerless
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:07:55PM +0000, Mankamana Mishra
> > > (mankamis) wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>>>> This IETF I would not be able to make it.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>>>>> Mankamana
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of
> > > Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>
> > > >>>>>>>> Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:06 PM
> > > >>>>>>>> To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> > > >>>>>>>> Cc: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>
> > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I'm available Tuesday morning.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> ~Tim
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Olufemi Komolafe <femi=
> > > 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> Not sure who is attending IETF 105 in Montreal next week but I
> > > was thinking that perhaps those of us attending can fix a time/place to
> > > meet up?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> It might be an idea to meet on Monday or Tuesday, i.e. before the
> > > PIM WG meeting on Thursday, to try to progress and finalise the survey?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Also, there have been some discussions on the thread recently so
> > > it???d be good for folks to please take a look and provide any
> > > thoughts/feedback?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> In my opinion, we should aim to handing over the survey to the WG
> > > chairs before the meeting so the focus can shift on to starting the actual
> > > mechanics of distributing the survey etc.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>>>> Femi
> > > >>>>>>>>
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