Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 23 July 2019 17:38 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>, Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
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Thanks folks for catching up. Points collected: a) Tim Chown: When you get irregular responses like "i do not understand the questions", please inform us (anonymized). b) Let discuss during WG meeting ideas whom to send to: groups, e.g.: internet2 multicast group multiplicators, e.g.: Dino Farinacci (still working with a customer, knowin operators). Cheers Toerless In-Reply-To: <20190723154907.3b74oiijconcdgjv@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote: > I need to chair my WG at 1:30, so meet would be nice, but i don't think > that time then is sufficient to go to some lunch place, so if anybody > is interest to go to llunch at noon, let me know, i will be back at 1PM > before Laurier to meet. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:36:17AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote: > > I can be free at 1. > > > > ~Tim > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi= > > 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > > > > Perhaps we can meet at 1pm then if that works better? Perhaps Tim will be > > > free by then too? > > > > > > We can meet on the first floor, perhaps at the entrance to Laurier? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Femi > > > > > > > On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:30, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > How long do you think ? 12:30 ? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28:50AM -0400, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote: > > > >> Ah, sorry, I'm also booked another meeting this noon. > > > >> But whenever my meeting is over, I try to join. > > > >> Sorry about that. > > > >> > > > >> Hitoshi > > > >> > > > >>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:24, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Sounds good. Foyer = ground floor of hotel ?! > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:46:27AM -0400, Olufemi Komolafe wrote: > > > >>>> Does meeting at noon today still work for the folks in Montreal? If > > > so, shall we just meet in the foyer and we can grab a spot to chat? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I think our goal should be to try to ensure there???s nothing > > > outstanding and finalise what we should tell the WG chairs to try to > > > progress this work, hopefully this week. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > > >>>> Femi > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:45, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I???ll be there too. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> So I believe we have Tim, Toerless, Hitoshi and myself. Anyone else? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Shall we try to meet on Tuesday, then? Say at noon? Anyone that > > > does not suit? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Nice work getting a response to the survey, Hitoshi. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>> Femi > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 11:28, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi folks, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I'll be there. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I'm sorry I've not contributed to this draft update. > > > >>>>>> I'm not an operator and have no information privately, but I asked > > > one Japanese operator to give some input based on the questionnaire and got > > > it. I hope it can be a good input. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hitoshi > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> ===from here=== > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3.2. Questionnaire for Network Operators > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Name: Takatoshi Ikeda > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Affiliation/Organization: APAN-JP > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Contact Email: ops@jp.apan.net > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Do you wish to keep your name and affiliation confidential?: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3.2.1. Deployment Status > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Which of the following are currently deployed in your network? And > > > >>>>>> for how long has it been deployed? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1. IGMPv1 [RFC1112] deployed?: N, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 2. IGMPv2 [RFC2236] deployed?: Y, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3. IGMPv3 [RFC3376] deployed?: Y, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 4. Lightweight IGMPv3 [RFC5790] Implemented: N, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 5. MLDv1 [RFC2710] deployed?: Y, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 6. MLDv2 [RFC3810] deployed?: Y, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 7. Lightweight MLDv2 [RFC5790] deployed?: N, since: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3.2.2. Deployment Specifics > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1. Which IGMPv3 features are in use? (Is Exclude mode with source > > > >>>>>> list in use?) > > > >>>>>> Membership-report for SSM > > > >>>>>> No filter function is used. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 2. Which MLDv2 features are in use? (Is Exclude mode with source > > > >>>>>> list in use?) > > > >>>>>> Membership-report for SSM > > > >>>>>> No filter function is used. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3. Does your network rely on the fallback mechanism between > > > >>>>>> different IGMP versions? (Between which IGMP versions?) (What > > > >>>>>> is your experience with this fallback mechanism?) > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> No > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 4. Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor) > > > >>>>>> implementations for your deployment? (Have you encountered any > > > >>>>>> inter-operability or backward-compatibility issues amongst > > > >>>>>> differing implementations?) (What are your concerns about these > > > >>>>>> issues?) > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> No > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3.2.3. Deployment Perspectives > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1. What have you found to be the strengths of IGMPv3/MLDv2? > > > >>>>>> Specifying Source for Multicast > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 2. What have you found to be the weaknesses of IGMPv3/MLDv2? > > > >>>>>> None > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3. What suggestions would you make to the PIM WG as it seeks to > > > >>>>>> update these documents? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> ===to here=== > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:59, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I hope i can go to IETF105 and would be happy to meet. Have not > > > tried to > > > >>>>>>> work out my schedule, but if i am there, it will be whole week. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Who else is coming ? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Cheers > > > >>>>>>> Toerless > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:07:55PM +0000, Mankamana Mishra > > > (mankamis) wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>>>>> This IETF I would not be able to make it. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks > > > >>>>>>>> Mankamana > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of > > > Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu> > > > >>>>>>>> Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:06 PM > > > >>>>>>>> To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > > > >>>>>>>> Cc: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I'm available Tuesday morning. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> ~Tim > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Olufemi Komolafe <femi= > > > 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> Not sure who is attending IETF 105 in Montreal next week but I > > > was thinking that perhaps those of us attending can fix a time/place to > > > meet up? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> It might be an idea to meet on Monday or Tuesday, i.e. before the > > > PIM WG meeting on Thursday, to try to progress and finalise the survey? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Also, there have been some discussions on the thread recently so > > > it???d be good for folks to please take a look and provide any > > > thoughts/feedback? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> In my opinion, we should aim to handing over the survey to the WG > > > chairs before the meeting so the focus can shift on to starting the actual > > > mechanics of distributing the survey etc. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>>>>> Femi > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > >>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org<mailto:Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > >>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> --- > > > >>>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > >>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > >>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > >>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> --- > > > >>> tte@cs.fau.de > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > >> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > > > tte@cs.fau.de > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > > Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > > > > -- > > > Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > > Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > > > > -- > > Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > > Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis > > > -- > --- > tte@cs.fau.de > > -- > Igmp-mld-bis mailing list > Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
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