Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> Tue, 06 August 2019 09:16 UTC
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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:15:57 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
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Mike, > On 6 Aug 2019, at 00:07, Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com> wrote: > > The next NANOG is Oct 28-30 in Austin, TX. May help to request time > (perhaps lightening talk) to discuss this effort and get feedback from > N. American Operators. I'm going to try to be there. > Sounds like a good idea :-) Regards, Femi > mike > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:38 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >> >> Thanks folks for catching up. >> >> Points collected: >> >> a) Tim Chown: When you get irregular responses like "i do not understand >> the questions", please inform us (anonymized). >> >> b) Let discuss during WG meeting ideas whom to send to: >> groups, e.g.: >> internet2 multicast group >> multiplicators, e.g.: >> Dino Farinacci (still working with a customer, knowin operators). >> >> Cheers >> Toerless >> >> In-Reply-To: <20190723154907.3b74oiijconcdgjv@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote: >>> I need to chair my WG at 1:30, so meet would be nice, but i don't think >>> that time then is sufficient to go to some lunch place, so if anybody >>> is interest to go to llunch at noon, let me know, i will be back at 1PM >>> before Laurier to meet. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:36:17AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote: >>>> I can be free at 1. >>>> >>>> ~Tim >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi= >>>> 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Perhaps we can meet at 1pm then if that works better? Perhaps Tim will be >>>>> free by then too? >>>>> >>>>> We can meet on the first floor, perhaps at the entrance to Laurier? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Femi >>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:30, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How long do you think ? 12:30 ? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28:50AM -0400, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote: >>>>>>> Ah, sorry, I'm also booked another meeting this noon. >>>>>>> But whenever my meeting is over, I try to join. >>>>>>> Sorry about that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hitoshi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:24, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds good. Foyer = ground floor of hotel ?! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:46:27AM -0400, Olufemi Komolafe wrote: >>>>>>>>> Does meeting at noon today still work for the folks in Montreal? If >>>>> so, shall we just meet in the foyer and we can grab a spot to chat? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think our goal should be to try to ensure there???s nothing >>>>> outstanding and finalise what we should tell the WG chairs to try to >>>>> progress this work, hopefully this week. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:45, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I???ll be there too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I believe we have Tim, Toerless, Hitoshi and myself. Anyone else? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Shall we try to meet on Tuesday, then? Say at noon? Anyone that >>>>> does not suit? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nice work getting a response to the survey, Hitoshi. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 11:28, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll be there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've not contributed to this draft update. >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not an operator and have no information privately, but I asked >>>>> one Japanese operator to give some input based on the questionnaire and got >>>>> it. I hope it can be a good input. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hitoshi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ===from here=== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.2. Questionnaire for Network Operators >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Name: Takatoshi Ikeda >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Affiliation/Organization: APAN-JP >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Contact Email: ops@jp.apan.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you wish to keep your name and affiliation confidential?: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.1. Deployment Status >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Which of the following are currently deployed in your network? And >>>>>>>>>>> for how long has it been deployed? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. IGMPv1 [RFC1112] deployed?: N, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. IGMPv2 [RFC2236] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. IGMPv3 [RFC3376] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Lightweight IGMPv3 [RFC5790] Implemented: N, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 5. MLDv1 [RFC2710] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6. MLDv2 [RFC3810] deployed?: Y, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 7. Lightweight MLDv2 [RFC5790] deployed?: N, since: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.2. Deployment Specifics >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Which IGMPv3 features are in use? (Is Exclude mode with source >>>>>>>>>>> list in use?) >>>>>>>>>>> Membership-report for SSM >>>>>>>>>>> No filter function is used. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Which MLDv2 features are in use? (Is Exclude mode with source >>>>>>>>>>> list in use?) >>>>>>>>>>> Membership-report for SSM >>>>>>>>>>> No filter function is used. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Does your network rely on the fallback mechanism between >>>>>>>>>>> different IGMP versions? (Between which IGMP versions?) (What >>>>>>>>>>> is your experience with this fallback mechanism?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor) >>>>>>>>>>> implementations for your deployment? (Have you encountered any >>>>>>>>>>> inter-operability or backward-compatibility issues amongst >>>>>>>>>>> differing implementations?) (What are your concerns about these >>>>>>>>>>> issues?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.3. Deployment Perspectives >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. What have you found to be the strengths of IGMPv3/MLDv2? >>>>>>>>>>> Specifying Source for Multicast >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. What have you found to be the weaknesses of IGMPv3/MLDv2? >>>>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. What suggestions would you make to the PIM WG as it seeks to >>>>>>>>>>> update these documents? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ===to here=== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:59, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I hope i can go to IETF105 and would be happy to meet. Have not >>>>> tried to >>>>>>>>>>>> work out my schedule, but if i am there, it will be whole week. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Who else is coming ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>> Toerless >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:07:55PM +0000, Mankamana Mishra >>>>> (mankamis) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> This IETF I would not be able to make it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mankamana >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of >>>>> Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:06 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm available Tuesday morning. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Olufemi Komolafe <femi= >>>>> 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure who is attending IETF 105 in Montreal next week but I >>>>> was thinking that perhaps those of us attending can fix a time/place to >>>>> meet up? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It might be an idea to meet on Monday or Tuesday, i.e. before the >>>>> PIM WG meeting on Thursday, to try to progress and finalise the survey? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, there have been some discussions on the thread recently so >>>>> it???d be good for folks to please take a look and provide any >>>>> thoughts/feedback? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, we should aim to handing over the survey to the WG >>>>> chairs before the meeting so the focus can shift on to starting the actual >>>>> mechanics of distributing the survey etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Femi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org<mailto:Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> tte@cs.fau.de >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>>>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> tte@cs.fau.de >>> >>> -- >>> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >>> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis >> >> -- >> --- >> tte@cs.fau.de >> >> -- >> Igmp-mld-bis mailing list >> Igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/igmp-mld-bis
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Toerless Eckert
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Timothy Winters
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- Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal? Olufemi Komolafe
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