Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?

Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> Tue, 06 August 2019 09:16 UTC

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Cc: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>, Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk, "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
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Mike, 


> On 6 Aug 2019, at 00:07, Mike McBride <mmcbride7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The next NANOG is Oct 28-30 in Austin, TX. May help to request time
> (perhaps lightening talk) to discuss this effort and get feedback from
> N. American Operators. I'm going to try to be there.
> 

Sounds like a good idea :-)

Regards,
Femi

> mike
> 
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:38 AM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks folks for catching up.
>> 
>> Points collected:
>> 
>> a) Tim Chown: When you get irregular responses like "i do not understand
>>   the questions", please inform us (anonymized).
>> 
>> b) Let discuss during WG meeting ideas whom to send to:
>>    groups, e.g.:
>>      internet2 multicast group
>>    multiplicators, e.g.:
>>      Dino Farinacci (still working with a customer, knowin operators).
>> 
>> Cheers
>>    Toerless
>> 
>> In-Reply-To: <20190723154907.3b74oiijconcdgjv@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>>> I need to chair my WG at 1:30, so meet would be nice, but i don't think
>>> that time then is sufficient to go to some lunch place, so if anybody
>>> is interest to go to llunch at noon, let me know, i will be back at 1PM
>>> before Laurier to meet.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:36:17AM -0400, Timothy Winters wrote:
>>>> I can be free at 1.
>>>> 
>>>> ~Tim
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olufemi Komolafe <femi=
>>>> 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps we can meet at 1pm then if that works better?  Perhaps Tim will be
>>>>> free by then too?
>>>>> 
>>>>> We can meet on the first floor, perhaps at the entrance to Laurier?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Femi
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:30, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How long do you think ? 12:30 ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28:50AM -0400, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote:
>>>>>>> Ah, sorry, I'm also booked another meeting this noon.
>>>>>>> But whenever my meeting is over, I try to join.
>>>>>>> Sorry about that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hitoshi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:24, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sounds good. Foyer = ground floor of hotel ?!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:46:27AM -0400, Olufemi Komolafe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Does meeting at noon today still work for the folks in Montreal?  If
>>>>> so, shall we just meet in the foyer and we can grab a spot to chat?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think our goal should be to try to ensure there???s nothing
>>>>> outstanding and finalise what we should tell the WG chairs to try to
>>>>> progress this work, hopefully this week.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Femi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:45, Olufemi Komolafe <femi@arista.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I???ll be there too.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So I believe we have Tim, Toerless, Hitoshi and myself.  Anyone else?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Shall we try to meet on Tuesday, then?  Say at noon?  Anyone that
>>>>> does not suit?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nice work getting a response to the survey, Hitoshi.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Femi
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 11:28, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be there.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've not contributed to this draft update.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not an operator and have no information privately, but I asked
>>>>> one Japanese operator to give some input based on the questionnaire and got
>>>>> it. I hope it can be a good input.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hitoshi
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ===from here===
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.  Questionnaire for Network Operators
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Name: Takatoshi Ikeda
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Affiliation/Organization: APAN-JP
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Contact Email: ops@jp.apan.net
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you wish to keep your name and affiliation confidential?:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.1.  Deployment Status
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Which of the following are currently deployed in your network?  And
>>>>>>>>>>> for how long has it been deployed?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  IGMPv1 [RFC1112] deployed?: N, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  IGMPv2 [RFC2236] deployed?: Y, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  IGMPv3 [RFC3376] deployed?: Y, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.  Lightweight IGMPv3 [RFC5790] Implemented: N, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.  MLDv1 [RFC2710] deployed?: Y, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 6.  MLDv2 [RFC3810] deployed?: Y, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 7.  Lightweight MLDv2 [RFC5790] deployed?: N, since:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.2.  Deployment Specifics
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  Which IGMPv3 features are in use?  (Is Exclude mode with source
>>>>>>>>>>>   list in use?)
>>>>>>>>>>>    Membership-report for SSM
>>>>>>>>>>>    No filter function is used.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Which MLDv2 features are in use?  (Is Exclude mode with source
>>>>>>>>>>>   list in use?)
>>>>>>>>>>>    Membership-report for SSM
>>>>>>>>>>>    No filter function is used.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  Does your network rely on the fallback mechanism between
>>>>>>>>>>>   different IGMP versions?  (Between which IGMP versions?)  (What
>>>>>>>>>>>   is your experience with this fallback mechanism?)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>    No
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.  Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor)
>>>>>>>>>>>   implementations for your deployment?  (Have you encountered any
>>>>>>>>>>>   inter-operability or backward-compatibility issues amongst
>>>>>>>>>>>   differing implementations?)  (What are your concerns about these
>>>>>>>>>>>   issues?)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>   No
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.3.  Deployment Perspectives
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What have you found to be the strengths of IGMPv3/MLDv2?
>>>>>>>>>>>   Specifying Source for Multicast
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  What have you found to be the weaknesses of IGMPv3/MLDv2?
>>>>>>>>>>>   None
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What suggestions would you make to the PIM WG as it seeks to
>>>>>>>>>>>   update these documents?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ===to here===
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 4:59, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope i can go to IETF105 and would be happy to meet. Have not
>>>>> tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work out my schedule, but if i am there, it will be whole week.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who else is coming ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Toerless
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:07:55PM +0000, Mankamana Mishra
>>>>> (mankamis) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This IETF I would not be able to make it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mankamana
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Igmp-mld-bis <igmp-mld-bis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Timothy Winters <twinters@iol.unh.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Olufemi Komolafe <femi=40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org" <igmp-mld-bis@ietf.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Igmp-mld-bis] Meet in Montreal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm available Tuesday morning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Olufemi Komolafe <femi=
>>>>> 40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40arista.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure who is attending IETF 105 in Montreal next week but I
>>>>> was thinking that perhaps those of us attending can fix a time/place to
>>>>> meet up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It might be an idea to meet on Monday or Tuesday, i.e. before the
>>>>> PIM WG meeting on Thursday, to try to progress and finalise the survey?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, there have been some discussions on the thread recently so
>>>>> it???d be good for folks to please take a look and provide any
>>>>> thoughts/feedback?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, we should aim to handing over the survey to the WG
>>>>> chairs before the meeting so the focus can shift on to starting the actual
>>>>> mechanics of distributing the survey etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Femi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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