Re: [EAI] NFC/NFD (Re: Test - driven schedule (Re: Rechartering))
Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> Mon, 27 July 2009 14:16 UTC
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Sorry about my address. Problems I can't solve right now. Harald Alvestrand writes: > and in this case, NFC wouldn't help either.... Exactly. Nothing is equivalent to the typos humans make. > Fuzzy matching is a very interesting subject, and I'd argue that it's > 100% orthogonal to EAI - I still remember the mail I got as a new > postmaster after a new fuzzy-match algorithm had rerouted a > misspelling of one man's wife's mail to his mailbox - "how did the > system know we are married?". > > I'd like to punt this issue to the Single Global Directory, but that's > just reducing it to a previously unsolved problem..... (One solved long ago by spammers, *sigh* ;) I'm serious, though: EAI should suggest that before storing an address, the software might attempt to check its accuracy using RCPT or VRFY, and do _nothing_ more. The heuristics fit in VRFY, and at that data entry time it's possible to ask "uh, was there a typo, did you mean <x>?" if the VRFY responds suitably. Arnt
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