Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SASLPrep, and Stringprep
Joseph Yee <jyee@afilias.info> Tue, 17 July 2012 13:42 UTC
Return-Path: <jyee@afilias.info>
X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E56921F86C1 for <ima@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:42:00 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.481
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.162, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SVa8dsNPxLdh for <ima@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from outbound.afilias.info (outbound.afilias.info [69.46.124.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5A221F86B6 for <ima@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ms5.yyz2.afilias-ops.info ([10.50.129.111] helo=smtp.afilias.info) by outbound.afilias.info with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <jyee@afilias.info>) id 1Sr833-0002p2-9W for ima@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:42:46 +0000
Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com ([209.85.212.50]) by smtp.afilias.info with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <jyee@afilias.info>) id 1Sr833-0002SO-5Z for ima@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:42:45 +0000
Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l1so266539vba.9 for <ima@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=vHyPzuJ8bPqxaGYWTpdoZKaKKGt9rMPVz1X+Ljwv3Fk=; b=KJUWDYspH5RIiKkp8NlaaJz27Y6aKrjeEQW/cCO9aUqPEZUexDkX8fXRQ3mJYM5kjR u26W5RoW9QLeXaX+/FDRk/7lZqteAM3aP86/H9DzDPWtA9OHbbS0A2W66ZbPxs1NB3ju Yk+Ub9c2ZbIY3IRN7Xghf+KN4zju8ebWdJAGWu/6ekzcBtn9BQpLb8CW0pN891nUnJDD 6ZlT1rcdP8rTzuNtKt8BxtHeLTbrnlyVOO6gD7D8wX/ZWl9WEVgYNH0gsXeRiE9Pfy2p wfzii2AQdMxwon/t8uUxv1HrSkgV4cuXa/OjZfDxY5mJxNOrC6lCgKl9QASvZ4bQ6+iw ebeA==
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.52.95.110 with SMTP id dj14mr1022085vdb.69.1342532565432; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.52.158.34 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <88119810B6E1D0E369999538@JcK-HP8200.jck.com>
References: <A2474402D72A7B12E41E2D0F@192.168.1.128> <5004488E.4020307@isode.com> <1FF35DCEEF4FBDCB987245CD@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> <008201cd63b0$4cd27fb0$c801a8c0@computer> <88119810B6E1D0E369999538@JcK-HP8200.jck.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:45 -0400
Message-ID: <CAF1dMVG4=3M24qzoGTxyHWcuXwzZ32iYV9Yiw=CA_8ZebpU-2w@mail.gmail.com>
From: Joseph Yee <jyee@afilias.info>
To: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlqALNf/c/VSGYGNTJ7okbODFgjYfsl8RiaWDMY5MYGb9QbGDByT5CNFAgFQ7fMkM+H0Pxj
Cc: EAI WG <ima@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SASLPrep, and Stringprep
X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" <ima.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ima>, <mailto:ima-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ima>
List-Post: <mailto:ima@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ima-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ima>, <mailto:ima-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:42:00 -0000
Personal thought. If we picked (2) with "... or one of its standards-track successors", then I have some concern whether the following paragraph (the 4th in section 3.2, about how to apply SASLprep on different arguments) may trip or confuse readers. I may simply worry too much [I hope]. If we picked (3), are we meant to write another bis when RFC4013 being updated/obsoleted? That say, I prefer (2), and would like to ask others if leaving the 4th paragraph unchanged ok. Joseph On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM, John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com> wrote: > > > --On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 08:08 +0800 Jiankang Yao > <yaojk@cnnic.cn> wrote: > >>... >>... >>>>> (2) If changes are needed, should Section 3.2 be rewritten >>>>> to explicitly allow conformance with the successors of 4013 >>>>> as an alternative? I think that would require only a few >>>>> changes of wording. >>> >>>> But that would require pointing to a document with unclear >>>> date of completion... >>> >>> Nope. It would require saying something like "MUST conform to >>> 4013 or one of its standards-track successors". That doesn't >>> promise that there will be such successors much less when they >>> will be done. And it ties the MUST to any version, not the >>> particular version represented by 4013. I am _not_ suggesting >>> that is the best thing to do, only that it wouldn't be hard if >>> we decided to do it. >>> >> >> I think that your suggestion saying something like "MUST >> conform to >> 4013 or one of its standards-track successors" is something >> between choice 2 and 3. >> Since the time to submission cut off is coming, I have >> submitted the new version. >> If the WG has the consensus on it, we can update it or keep it. > > Thanks. What do others think? > > john > > _______________________________________________ > IMA mailing list > IMA@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ima
- [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SASLPre… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… Jiankang Yao
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… Jiankang Yao
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… Joseph Yee
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… Jiankang Yao
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] POP (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-05), SAS… ned+ima