Re: [EAI] [IETF] Internationalized Email Internet Draft

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Tony,

>I’m not convinced that section 1.2 describes a real problem. People do this all the time today with various combinations of languages. Why is the combination of Russian and Chinese any >different? If you think it is, then please expand on the aspect that does make it more difficult.

I think what we were thinking of is the actual difficulties involved in typing or user interface on a desktop.  For example, if you are speaking in a particular language and don't have the associated keyboard for it, then you might have to bring up a virtual keyboard to type in a particular language.  Then, you might have to set the language preference on your desktop.  
If you use a second language, then it becomes more complicated.   So, you have two virtual keyboards + an actual physical keyboard?  Hmm.
I guess I am also assuming that in real life, you would actually be speaking both languages and not trying to do something like a "google translate" to read the message from the second language.  Let me think how to rephrase this section.
Also, I think we have to distinguish between mobile and desktop.   On my cell phone, I easily go back and forth from, for example, my english keyboard, and emoji or bitmoji keyboard.  So, I think that it would be easy enough to go from english to hindi to french and then back to insert some emoji's.   Just thinking out loud about how this would actually work.  (This is making me think that maybe I text too much!  Why am I doing all this back and forth even now? )
 
>I forwarded a number of nits to the authors.
Thanks!
Nalini 
                Tony Hansen
 
From: IMA <ima-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Harish Chowdhary <harish@nixi.in>
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Date: Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 1:54 AM
To: "ima@ietf.org" <ima@ietf.org>
Subject: [EAI] [IETF] Internationalized Email Internet Draft
 
Dear All,
Greetings!

We have just posted an INTERNET DRAFT  on deployment Issues of International Emails on IETF.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-elkchow-iea-deploy/?include_text=1

Here is a brief description of what we want to discuss during IETF 97 (Seoul,South Korea)

International Email Addresses (IEA) are far from the global reality. The current de-facto language of the Internet is English.  Even today, many of the users of the Internet do not speak English as their primary language.  The next billion users of the Internet
 are likely to be even less familiar with English. IEA is probably the first application needed in a truly internationalized Internet.  The Email Address Internationalization (EAI) Working Group defined the RFCs to support internationalized email.  The time
 may now finally have come to develop best practices and to discuss the deployment challenges for IEA.


Your feedback and suggestions are most welcome to make above cited draft inclusive of all the matters related to "Deployment of International Emails.

We may further extend it to take up all the UA related issues.

Hoping for your support.

Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary

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