Re: [EAI] [IETF] Multiple Addresses [ was: Internationalized Email Internet Draft]

John Bucy <jbucy@google.com> Wed, 19 October 2016 00:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [EAI] [IETF] Multiple Addresses [ was: Internationalized Email Internet Draft]
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:07 AM, <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com>; wrote:

> John / Tony,
>
> >(4) Multiple addresses for one user (and Section 4).  Keeping in mind
> that many people maintain a number of identities, and even multiple email
> addresses, for different purposes, I >don't understand what point you are
> trying to make with this section.
>
> Sure.  People have multiple email addresses for different reasons.   The
> question was actually with aliases.  Maybe it is not possible to have all
> email consolidated to one box.
>
> For example, if I want to have two mailboxes:
>
> nalini@mymailserver.com and नलिनी@mymailserver.com (or
> नलिनी@[myidnserver].[myinternationaltld]) all come to one mailbox is that
> possible?   Should it be possible?
>
> I *think* people want that.   I think we will know as this all takes off.
>
>
> >Many of us believe that users who have mailboxes whose names involve
> non-ASCII local parts and who engage in communications outside their
> primary language group will find it >necessary to maintain either separate
> all-ASCII mailboxes or all-ASCII aliases to their primary mailboxes and to
> do so for a very long time.
>

While we don't have concrete product plans at this time, it is my
expectation that Gmail will support adding on an eai alias to an existing
account long before we will support creating a Google Account with a
non-ascii primary username. This might look similar to the existing "custom
from" feature.



cheers
john