Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistbis-00.txt
John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com> Thu, 24 November 2011 12:42 UTC
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Speaking strictly personally as an instance of "other people"... --On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:14 -0500 "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: >> Where does using a percent-encoded instead of a punycoded >> <ihost> help wrt mailing lists? So far I think you can >> either keep UTF-8 "as is" or "get it right" (= 3987 + 5890). > > I still prefer to let other people weigh in on this. In part because foo%bar@example.com has historically meant something special in email (where "bar" could easily be, e.g., 61 or 62 with foo%61%62@example.com as a routing) and in part because we just wanted to avoid the risks and attack vectors associated with multiple encodings, we have strongly discouraged use of %-encodings and other tricks wrt email addresses. The "discussion" last week in the IRI WG that illustrated the non-equivalence in different environments between a string in U-label form, one in A-label form, and one that was %-encoded further illustrates the desirability of a "just get it right" approach. Pop-imap-downgrade illustrates the possibility of using the more mail-like approach of encoded words rather than %-encoding, especially %-encoded UTF-8. So my preferences is close to Frank's. --On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 16:32 +0000 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> | Downgrading list headers >> >> Should that get a reference to the pop-imap-downgrade draft? > > Dunno, what do other people think. Not unless you decide to use encoded words. And maybe not then. pop-imap-downgrade is designed to be applicable to communication with remote mail reading clients by the mail store or delivery MTA. Again, just personal opinions at this point. john
- [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistbis-0… internet-drafts
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John Levine
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John R. Levine
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John R. Levine
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John Levine
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John Levine
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistb… Martin J. Dürst