Re: [EAI] NFC/NFD (Re: Test - driven schedule (Re: Rechartering))
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Mon, 27 July 2009 14:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [EAI] NFC/NFD (Re: Test - driven schedule (Re: Rechartering))
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Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > John C Klensin writes: >> --On Friday, July 24, 2009 09:22 +0200 Harald Alvestrand >> <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote: >>> The more dangerous brokenness is the business card data entry >>> situation, where people enter an address from a business card and >>> get a "no such mailbox" response, without there being any visual >>> difference between the two strings. >>> >>> Requiring normalization at the server (without placing a >>> requirement on what one normalizes to) would at least remove this >>> class of issue. >> >> Exactly. > > I wonder if that's a bit of a fallacy... anyone who expects humans to > read and reenter 42-69 differently from 42‒69 has a problem. IMO > that's a perfectly natural mistake, it involves a character often used > in today's email addresses, and I've never heard anyone use this > particular example before so I doubt it would be implemented quickly. and in this case, NFC wouldn't help either.... > > Alternative proposal: Extend VRFY to optionally return a fuzzily > correctified version of an email address. If VRFY is disabled or > doesn't return an address, correction isn't available for that > address. I think this is better because it permits the fuzzy fuzziness > to be invoked when the address is entered into e.g. an address > database, instead of when a message is transmitted. As a bonus it's > 99% independent of EAI. Fuzzy matching is a very interesting subject, and I'd argue that it's 100% orthogonal to EAI - I still remember the mail I got as a new postmaster after a new fuzzy-match algorithm had rerouted a misspelling of one man's wife's mail to his mailbox - "how did the system know we are married?". I'd like to punt this issue to the Single Global Directory, but that's just reducing it to a previously unsolved problem..... Harald
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