Re: [EAI] Test - driven schedule (Re: Rechartering)
Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Thu, 23 July 2009 06:26 UTC
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From: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
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Yes, that would be good :) Especially understanding which criteria people feel are necessary, some could be assumed and people could have different views. I wasn't trying to suggest that a schedule must fit a certain date. There are possibly dates I have to make decisions by, but that shouldn't drive a schedule. Any schedule would help me understand if EAI is going to take another 6 months, year, or 10 years :) And if a schedule misses milestones, then it still helps understand how long the process may take. Also your suggestion is good because if people feel that when such a schedule is derived it is "too slow", then maybe it'll be clear what could be done to speed it up. (like maybe whomever feels it isn't happening enough could step up as volunteers.) -Shawn ________________________________________ From: Harald Alvestrand [harald@alvestrand.no] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:49 PM To: Shawn Steele Cc: John C Klensin; ima@ietf.org Subject: Test - driven schedule (Re: [EAI] Rechartering) Shawn Steele wrote: > >> But I personally think that the odds of getting a site that >> can't manage "john+ietf@bogus.domain.name" to be able to handle >> <иван@bogus.domain.name <john@bogus.domain.name>> >> within my lifetime are pretty small. >> > > I'd agree, but john@bogus.domain.name should still work :)0 > > So, I pretty much agree with your points, but you aren't giving me much hope of EAI being adaquate to those criteria in the next decade. I still think some sort of schedule would be interesting to help us figure out how to proceed in addressing your concerns. > Would it be interetsing to (for at least 5 minutes) explore the idea of a test-driven schedule, rather than a calendar-driven one? That is, specify a number of criteria that should be met before standards-track, and see if we can work backwards: tests that need to be done -> people volunteering for the work -> reasonable schedule? Harald
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