Re: [EAI] [dmarc-ietf] I18ndir last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-eaiauth-03

Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Wed, 20 March 2019 03:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [EAI] [dmarc-ietf] I18ndir last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-eaiauth-03
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Hello John,

Thanks for your followup to the I18N directorate's review of your draft.

Copying the EAI mailing list, since they might have some ideas.

On 2019/03/20 05:57, John Levine wrote:
> In article <155255732161.2699.16055637076396529424@ietfa.amsl.com>; you write:
> 
> Here's a terminology question.
> 
>> "Since a policy record can
>>     be used for both internationalized and conventional mail, those
>>     addresses still have to be conventional addresses, not
>>     internationalized addresses."
>> ->
>> "Since a policy record can
>>     be used for both internationalized and conventional mail, those
>>     addresses still have to be ASCII-only addresses, not
>>     internationalized addresses."
>> (We don't want to give the impression that addresses with non-ASCII characters
>> are non-conventional.)
> 
> What do we call mail that's not EAI mail?

Maybe just that, 'non-EAI mail'? Or something like "mail that needs the 
SMTPUTF8 extension for transmission"? Or "mail with non-ASCII addresses"?

> It's not ASCII mail, since
> non-EAI messages can contain any character sets you want in the
> message body.

And in comments in headers, if properly encoded.

> Some people call it legacy mail which seems kind of jumping the gun.

I wish we could use that term, but I agree it's a bit early. Also, even 
if it were appropriate now, it's not precise enough.

Regards,   Martin.