Re: [EAI] [IETF] Content Issues [

Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mon, 17 October 2016 09:17 UTC

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Hello John,

On 2016/10/17 01:55, John C Klensin wrote:
> --On Sunday, October 16, 2016 6:48 AM -0700 ned+ima@mrochek.com
> wrote:

>> Like it or not, that's not possible at this point. Perhaps
>> that will change at some point in the future when the
>> penetration of EAI has increased, but until it does the best
>> we could offer is to allow EAI addresses to receive the list
>> but not post to the list. And I don't think that's of
>> sufficient utility  to bother implementing.

> Yes, exactly.  Even for the "receive but don't post" case, it is
> worth remembering that just including a cc to a non-ASCII
> address on a message, even if the sender and list addresses are
> all-ASCII, or having non-ASCII in the headers when all addresses
> are in ASCII, is sufficient to prevent many members of the
> community from receiving the message.

Agreed, but the people subscribed on the mailing list don't appear in 
the headers of the mails sent out to others on the list, so that 
shouldn't be a problem.


> I haven't thought through
> the implications of IMAP-accessible archives of messages that
> require SMTPUTF8 capabilities, but I don't think that would be
> pleasant either.

There may be a time where we have a few remaining people with old IMAP 
UAs that may have problems accessing the IETF's SMTPUTF8-capable IMAP 
servers (if there actually are such things). In these cases, these 
people may have to use the Web archives to check these mails.

But that time is definitely well in the future.

Regards,   Martin.