[imap5] Beep

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Thu, 10 May 2012 15:57 UTC

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On 2/16/2012 3:30 AM, Tony Finch wrote:
> I think BEEP is insane. Masses of complexity just to avoid using multiple
> concurrent TCP connections.


Having been involved in creating beep, I'm feeling obligated to respond 
on this.  I won't be saying anything that isn't pretty obvious, so the 
real disparity is almost certainly personal interpretations of degree:

    Multiple simultaneous TCP connections are highly problematic.

    Especially for new protocols.

The real world of today's Internet makes it difficult to ensure proper 
operation through firewalls and application gateways.

It would be very nice to fix this underlying problem, but until it's 
fixed, then a new application that uses new TCP ports is not likely to 
succeed.

d/
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