Re: [imap5] Designing a new replacement protocol for IMAP

Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm> Thu, 16 February 2012 14:57 UTC

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From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>
To: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:06:11PM +0000, Tony Finch wrote:
> Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> > Not really.  Existing servers would be a lot more efficient with a query
> > which limited to a single "folder", for sure - because they could optimise
> > it.  But it's no different than an SQL query across a partitioned table.
> > It means your in-memory-state needs to be big enough to accommodate all
> > the mailboxes that might be in the regular searches, of course.
> 
> Have you seen UW-IMAP's in-memory state? :-)

Nup - I've seen Cyrus' though.  It could be trimmed considerably if we
had to...

Bron.