Re: [imap5] Designing a new replacement protocol for IMAP

Michel Sébastien <Sebastien.Michel@atos.net> Thu, 16 February 2012 11:23 UTC

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> well, deploying CalDAV to a corporate environment has all sorts of issues.  You want to run your CalDAV server on a computer running a web server?  Port conflict.  Or you need to wedge it into your web server somehow.

You're right. It's also possible to bind to a different IP, do a port forwarding. Nothing complicated for a sysadmin

>It's still another set of creds and config to access what users consider to just be a feature in mail.
>
>Imagine if you needed to use 5 different keys to drive your car.  One for the door, a different one for the steering lock, another to start the engine, another to unlock the transmission etc etc.
>

Seems inappropriate, SMTP and IMAP configurations are already barriers for end-user.

Regards,
Sébastien


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