Re: [imapext] Request to form a new WG: JMAP
Julien ÉLIE <julien@trigofacile.com> Mon, 07 November 2016 21:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [imapext] Request to form a new WG: JMAP
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Hi all, > (2) Some of us believe, at least on some days, that a key reason > why SMTP, the message formats that started with RFC 822, POP3, > and IMAP have survived against a large number of proprietary and > other SDO alternatives have been precisely because they operate > in plain text, with all but IMAP using very simple > command-argument or name:value syntax. Are we ready to give > that up? Do we really need interoperability between a server > and a captive Webmail interface? Arguably, standards of that > type are part of the province of the IETF only if someone is > contemplating generic webmail clients that can interact with the > servers of more than one organization. My two cents here: someone proposed 2 years ago a similar model for NNTP. It was named... JNTP (Json News Transfer Protocol). Here is its current "specification" (in French): http://www.nemoweb.net/?page_id=75 with even an RFC-like format: http://www.nemoweb.net/?p=1295 And, as John hinted at, people get then stuck in exchanges between an NNTP server and a captive webnews interface like: http://news.nemoweb.net/ Since 2014, no much move for JNTP, which is still used only by his creator. Like SMTP and IMAP, NNTP operates in plain text. A great advantage over other alternatives. > Again, just questions, but questions I think we need to ask > carefully before standardizing yet another alternative way to do > much the same thing. +1 -- Julien ÉLIE « – Vous ramassez des champignons sans les connaître ? – Et alors ? Ce n'est pas pour les manger mais pour les vendre. »
- [imapext] Fwd: Request to form a new WG: JMAP Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … John C Klensin
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ned Freed
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … John C Klensin
- Re: [imapext] Fwd: Request to form a new WG: JMAP Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] Request to form a new WG: JMAP Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Doug Royer
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ned Freed
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … John C Klensin
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Doug Royer
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ned Freed
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … John C Klensin
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Neil Jenkins
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Tony Finch
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ned Freed
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ned Freed
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ted Lemon
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Doug Royer
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ted Lemon
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Bron Gondwana
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ned Freed
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Ted Lemon
- [imapext] offline mode, was Re: [ietf-smtp] Fwd: … Tony Finch
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Doug Royer
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Fwd: Request to form a … Bron Gondwana
- [imapext] Further discussions of JMAP Alexey Melnikov
- [imapext] I moved to jmap@ietf.org Doug Royer
- Re: [imapext] [ietf-smtp] Request to form a new W… Jacob Palme
- Re: [imapext] offline mode, was Re: [ietf-smtp] F… Brandon Long