Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in
Claudio DeSanti <cds@cisco.com> Fri, 08 September 2006 17:00 UTC
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Keith, in a different conversation (unfortunately not happened on this list) with the FC-SW-x editor, we agreed that the proper value should be FFh, 255 decimal. The first revision of FC-SW-5 is expected to contain this assignment. Thanks, Claudio. Keith McCloghrie wrote: >> T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB review >> >> --------- questions/comments >> >> - DESSCIPTION clause of t11FLockApplicationID says: >> The value assigned to identify the 'application' for a >> lock established via Acquire Change Authorization (ACA) >> request is: 'D0'h (208 decimal). This value will be >> documented in a future revision of the FC-SW-nn >> specification." >> >> Do we have any idea as to "when such future FC-SW-nn will show >> up ?? If not, is this acceptable? >> > > My understanding is that FC-SW-4 is closed, and it lists 'D0'h as one > of the reserved values. The long-time editor of FC-SW-nn sent an email > message dated 8Aug06 to the T11.5 mailing-list with the assignment of > a range of values including 'D0'h for this purpose. The assignment > will be documented in FC-SW-5 which is approved as a new project, but > there is no initial draft of it yet. > > Would you like a formal liaison message from T11 to the IETF stating > what number has been assigned ?? > > >> - For t11FLockInitiator, in the case the SNMP, would it not be >> wise/usefull to add the snmpSecuityName? >> > > I suggest it should be possible to be a compliant implementation of this > MIB even for an SNMPv1/SNMPv2 implementation which doesn't support SNMPv3. > So, if we define an object to hold the value of snmpSecurityName, we > need to define what value that object will have in an agent which does > not implement the SNMP-COMMUNITY-MIB (in which snmpCommunitySecurityName > is defined). What value would you propose ?? > > >> - Reading: >> >> t11FLockRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX RowStatus >> MAX-ACCESS read-create >> STATUS current >> DESCRIPTION >> "The status of this conceptual row. >> >> A row for which the value of t11FLockInitiatorType is >> not 'snmp' cannot be deleted via this object." >> >> I wonder: >> - can a row be set to notReady or notInservice for rows that >> were not created by 'snmp'? I guess not, but one could get >> the impression that such is possible based on this one >> sentence >> > > How about we change "be deleted" to "have its status changed" ?? > > >> - What is the persistence behaviour of a row created via snmp? >> Probably nonVolatile? But would be good to say something >> about it. >> > > No, I think it should be volatile, because an agent restart is the > equivalent of the "various error situations" mentioned in the last > paragraph of t11FLockEntry's DESCRIPTION. Yes, I'll add some text. > > >> - SO I see: >> >> t11FLockStatus OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX INTEGER { >> active(1), >> settingUp(2), >> rejectFailure(3), >> otherFailure(4) >> } >> >> and wonder what will happen if the lock gets released? >> not sure I understand how such happens, but I would assume a lock does >> not stay forever once it has become active, does it? >> > > No. It gets released explicitly or implicitly (as mentioned above). > > >> Does the entry disappear in that case? >> > > Yes, because the table is defined as the list of all *current* locks. > > >> --------- NITS >> >> - in t11FLockEntry DESCRIPTION clause I read 4th para: >> >> Recently, a distinct value of Application_ID has also been >> assigned/reserved as a means of distinguishing locks >> established via Acquire Change Authorization (ACA) >> requests. With this recent assignment, an Application_ID >> >> I think I would remove "Recently" and "recent". >> This document is intended for a reasonably long lifespan in the >> future, no? >> > > OK, how about I can change it to: > > Not long before this MIB was defined, a distinct value of > Application_ID was also assigned/reserved as the means to > distinguish locks established via Acquire Change > Authorization (ACA) requests. This additional assignment > allows an Application_ID to be used to uniquely identify a > lock amongst all active locks established either by an EACA > or by an ACA. > > >> - REFERENCE clauses of course need to be updated. >> > > Right. > > >> - for t11FLockActiveGroup, the description clause does not say that >> (if write/create-mode is supported) that a lock can also be >> established. >> > > I don't understand. One of the objects in the t11FLockActiveGroup is > t11FLockRowStatus, which is defined with a MAX-ACCESS of read-create > and a MIN-ACCESS of read-only. So, what do you want clarified ?? > > Keith. > > _______________________________________________ > imss mailing list > imss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss > > _______________________________________________ imss mailing list imss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss
- [imss] Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-mib-00.t… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-mib-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Re: Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: Agenda for next week's T11.5 Managemen… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call: 'Fibre-Channel Name Server … Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call: 'Fibre-Channel Name Server … Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: DISCUSS on Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-rtm-m… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Claudio DeSanti
- Re: [imss] RE: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-r… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] RE: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-r… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call: draft-ietf-imss-fc-rscn-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-m… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] A couple of loose ends Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Claudio DeSanti
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVE… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call comments on draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Last Call comments on draft-ietf-imss-… Black_David
- Re: [imss] Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] T11 MIB issue resolutions Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] T11 MIB issue resolutions Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Rereview for draft-ietf-imss-fc-rscn-mib-0… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] Rereview of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-mi… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Rereview of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-mi… Black_David
- Re: [imss] re-view: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] re-view: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] re-review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVER-MIB in Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] re-review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVER-MIB in Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-m… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-m… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Black_David
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Black_David
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] MIB doctor review part 1 (SYNTAX Check… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] MIB doctor review part 2 (T11-FC-SP-TC… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] MIB doctor review part 2 (T11-FC-SP-TC… WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Black_David
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)