RE: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-00.txt as an imss
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Subject: RE: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-00.txt as an imss
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Speaking as a contributor I agree with the arguments presented by David and Keith. Splitting the documents will make in no way the life easier to implementers, will create an overhead in repeated boilerplate text can create potential cross-reference and document synchronization issues. Speaking as AD, the task of finding reviewers for say three or four mid-sized documents is not easier than the task of finding a reviewer for one large sized document :-) >From both perspectives I support accepting the document in its current one document format. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith McCloghrie [mailto:kzm@cisco.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:47 PM > To: Black_David@emc.com > Cc: imss@ietf.org; Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Subject: Re: [imss] Acceptance of > draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-00.txt as an imss > > David, > > The document is certainly larger than normal. However, I > think that on balance it would be disadvantageous to split > the document. > Doing so would make each of multiple documents be "easier to handle" > but at the cost of an increase in the sum total amount of > work, e.g., N documents incur N times as much IETF-process > overhead, and more time/work to be spent in checking the > cross-references between the N documents. From a technical > point of view, I think the necessary modularity is already > obtained by having six MIB modules, i.e., without needing any > MIB module to be in a separate document. Having a single > document will also be the most efficient way to review the > document, i.e., one large review, rather than a set of > individually-smaller reviews which incur a larger aggregate > of review effort. So, if WG is willing and if Dan can find a > MIB Doctor to review the work as a single document, then I > think that's the most efficient. > > Keith. > > > As Keith noted to the list last month, the draft > > draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-00.txt has been posted to the > > Internet-Draft servers. This contains security management > MIB modules > > that have been worked on in T11, and is intended as the > starting point > > for the final work item on the imss WG's charter: > > > > Dec 2007 Submit Fibre Channel Security MIB modules > > to IESG for consideration as proposed standard > > > > In the absence of objection, this draft will be accepted as an > > official imss WG draft during the IETF meeting week in > Chicago, July > > 22-27. Note: the imss WG is not meeting in Chicago as my > intent is to > > handle work on this draft almost entirely on the mailing > list. There > > will be a meeting in Vancouver if there are technical issues to > > discuss. > > > > I would like to see comments on acceptance of this draft, and > > particularly on its size. The draft is nearly 250 pages - > security is > > not easy to manage ;-). It contains 6 MIB modules, and so I'm > > interested in hearing whether the draft ought to be split into > > multiple smaller drafts that may be easier to handle. > > > > Thanks, > > --David (imss WG chair) > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > David L. Black, Senior Technologist > > EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 > > +1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 > > black_david@emc.com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ imss mailing list imss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss
- [imss] Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-mib-00.t… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-mib-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Re: Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: Agenda for next week's T11.5 Managemen… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call: 'Fibre-Channel Name Server … Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call: 'Fibre-Channel Name Server … Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: DISCUSS on Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-rtm-m… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Claudio DeSanti
- Re: [imss] RE: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-r… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] RE: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-r… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call: draft-ietf-imss-fc-rscn-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-m… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Claudio DeSanti
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVE… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call comments on draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Last Call comments on draft-ietf-imss-… Black_David
- Re: [imss] Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] A couple of loose ends Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] T11 MIB issue resolutions Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] T11 MIB issue resolutions Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Rereview for draft-ietf-imss-fc-rscn-mib-0… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] Rereview of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-mi… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Rereview of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-mi… Black_David
- Re: [imss] re-view: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] re-view: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] re-review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVER-MIB in Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] re-review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVER-MIB in Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-m… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-m… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Black_David
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Black_David
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] MIB doctor review part 1 (SYNTAX Check… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] MIB doctor review part 2 (T11-FC-SP-TC… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] MIB doctor review part 2 (T11-FC-SP-TC… WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Black_David
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)